BTG 17 - Why We Fight

[Music] hey guys what's going on David Avalon here with Robert Drysdale for a new edition of breaking the guard how are you doing Robert or so good living the life lots of work busy days as usual but you know Oh more or less did you just related so you know laughs I chose every now and then I'll complaint it like a man tough day you know or you know be making some dumb complaint always remind myself what I actually do for a living so you gotta stay positive absolutely I know I just been I just moved to a new home I'm actually closer to you now our neighbors yeah moving like a my Fitbit so I walked 13 miles yesterday just going back and forth dude I'm down a help man if you need me so they say something you know I mean most of the worldly like a mutiny in the gym or something what's the word like a crew the gym just go over and about yeah I know we're pretty good now it's just I just get any more furniture he's a lot bigger space so I gotta fill it out but should be fun Wow I saw in the news I guess it went to topics I made the pick on well as I saw that quarter Ryan had a matchup originally with rofl yeah Vieira and he had to pull out I'm not sure what happened with me I saw something Rodolfo's Instagram page about like something that that was agreed on and it was I can't remember what the exact complaint was but it was something that changed about the agreements that they had out of it was financial was for his rules time limit who knows it might have been something that they did couldn't agree on even though it seemed like they had it signed already which is right that's what I don't understand yeah they were announcing it like it was already yeah it's unless it's a really poorly written contract you know and then they'd left some room for some interpretation there and then the questions came after that could happen right let's say you write an agreement and then the agreement is you think that it covers all aspects of that engagement right and then there's always something what about this and that's not covered in the in the contract right could be something like time limit for example or some rule or if they go out of balance what happens like something like yeah right because the problem with a lot of these rule sets is that they don't think too far ahead because they have no they haven't had enough experience the beauty of experience is that you are exposed to so many situations that you are able to what about this oh now we have to think about what we're going to do in their situation write it down if you look at IBD Jeff's handbook the rule book it's not small is because it covers everything almost every single possible situation they're adding new stuff every year because every new year there's something that comes along that goes we never thought about this what do we do here write some unusual situation it happens in one in them you know one in a million matches but if it happens you have to have it written down yeah you have to build the coverage you have to be able to cover right so a lot of these new rule sets everyone thinks of a rule and everyone thinks about the points and oh let's remove advantages and let's do remove points completely or let's give like X amount for a pass so that's the easy part right the difficult part is factoring all these other aspects that you can't all these are the things that could happen if I that you can't really you know because for see right so maybe something like that I don't see Rodolfo like not fighting honestly I don't think it's his like not because he doesn't want to I think that there's some disagreement that there might be some legit disagreement there but I could be wrong I gotta know the details and then he got replaced by Herbert yeah and then he also pulled out and again I didn't see a reason why but the thing that made it we to me was like when they announced that match at her birth was going to come in they Gordon went on said he's gonna pull out I'll bet money on it and yeah a week later he pulls out I'm like oh god so much worse but her buddies not never been like most consistent of competitors like he's done things like this before so the thing about him is like he's incredibly athletic he's very gifted but he has that other side like he's you know he's inconsistent or like that yeah he had that incident and I think I was in Brazil where he attacked the heckler and complain about the knee or something and it's all running right yeah yeah he said yeah injured the knee or was like a Ranieri person but something happened where he said he got hurt and then the guy heckled them and then he just sprinted and jumped across thank you was fighting Philly deep in our they he was it's fine for the opinion it's someone who Felipe's seamless said something to him and then he lost it but anyhow to me I'm watching this I'm like people have the opportunity to fight arguably the best American grappler at least nogi in Gordon and Ryan was the recent double champ and they're not jumping at the opportunity yeah yeah the point to me it seems crazy like if I had that same opportunity back when I was competing like what I can fight the best guy in the world and get paid for it yeah like where is this little line that the signing up for a guy like Herber because I think I got like weirdo Foods in a position where he has more to lose yeah yeah more to lose less than gain well you know less to prove he's in the UFC do like a guy like Rudolph it's almost like he's dude like I'm done all these digits of tournaments even though he has really hasn't done that much and nogi it's never been his strong right we all know this I think compared to his gay resume there they the guy resume far out does an OD one um but he has less to prove I feel like for him it's like he could a guy I could almost look at that match and go yeah good one or even go like you know what I'm just to focus on the FC I'm not interested yeah no one could hold it against him yeah I get the his he's got more to lose in his situation it's fine the UFC he gets hurt you know like Warren's a good leg dog he goes heel hook he can't fight that come roaring potentially career out of it yeah yeah his career so I get it you know personally guys who have good MMA careers I don't see the reason to go to ground yeah like I have my guy Jason once to an e bi and my brother was just really nervous all the time because like and if he gets hurts himself in any situation here isn't everyone his MMA career yeah I mean and he he kind of one heel hook situation with us oh my god nothing happened to me but you know it's like you don't need that I mean you have other things going on why would you put yourself in risking that so different officer Tracy clearly but like you were saying with with her birth he's not a legacy champion or anything that he's not doing him as far as I'm concerned so like this is a good opportunity for him to rise up yeah his stock will go way up yeah - right and you know do well or even beat you know in Gordon yeah so it doesn't make a lot of sense why someone that came but allowed unless of course he's a bit of a head case though like uh in the sense where I think he's got a lot of emotional value AJ he's very like up and down with how he is performing and you know how he is off on and off the mats from what I hear you know so I'm not that surprised I'll be honest you know so yeah it's unfortunate because you know you like you said you have an opportunity to fight someone who's highly qualified you didn't pay to do it you know so I think people you'd be hungry hungrier to jump at the challenge I will say this to a lot of athletes you know people think they're motivated by money and I have a theory and I've told this to promoters and a lot of times promoters don't have a lot of experience in jiu-jitsu if you notice I can I they come from business you know like I know business I know everything kind of mindset like you know business you don't know cultures the culture I'm telling you what the culture is right that's what I know and a lot of them and they're more worried about prestige than they are about money I really believe that I think that they're more concerned about their reputation and how they feel about that reputation because what they how they feel about that reputation and it might be delusional - they might think they're way like I've done so much more than they actually did right but how they they feel like I'm that that emotional attachment they have to their of their persona to their character and they may be conserving that more willingly than they are pursuing money that makes any sense ya know good example is like IBJJF doesn't even pay yeah it's got it's got everyone there it's like an another ADCC there's no cash prize but it's filled with grapplers you know I owe the Olympics the Olympics is about prestige it's not about money right although depending on what country you're from and what sport you went in you're gonna make a lot of money yeah just from sponsors right but you know I'm gonna probably some gold Olympic gold medalists out there that are broke never made a dorm room but I'm sure there's a few of them yes if you're in wrestling yeah depend on the sport no one watches I don't know there's this I'm pregnant exactly the guy pro-gay money otherwise but that is a sky in Brazil you weren't like seven world titles and like it was it was Robert something here on his last name but like the the both things are both racing thing okay you know I know you call it like that you did that they catch the wind they just try to go as fast as they can not went surfing but like but a little tiny boat I gotta stand up on it I understand anyway Nevers I've heard of that but my point is you know it's depend on what sport you're in you get zero recognition yeah it's kind of like it's unfortunate you know it is you know so I mean I the whole prestige saygus that's where I'm sitting it from right I know like back when mean you were competing up a lot of times there was barely any money and you're usually taking a net loss if you're going it's an investment yeah yeah and the promoter on payment I remember one time I went to fight Dave to Ralph hmm I'm in Miami he's in the West Coast and the promoter wanted to set it up and they didn't want to pay for my ticket there and I go well give you like it was like I haven't heard boxer selling that and like the ticket was like 450 I'm like what I'm gonna get fifty bucks and then I had to get a hotel and like I'm not making any money off this and so actually that's uh was that lloyd irvin actually sponsored it though everyone's like you know what I'll give you the flight money well you know and yeah I didn't even wear anything for him so it was kind of a cool gesture and that's before like we did anything together but uh yeah I was fighting I there not for money because I wanted to prove I was the best guy yeah I'm here at the time date Terrell I think he had just placed there already had an ADC see ya fly full lock Riccardo made it yeah yeah the most beautiful submission so this day yeah hey so here any very good wrestler when I say flying foot luck I'm not kidding here he actually had a single you know he picked it up and he jumped over belly down yeah like through his you know outside leg over Ricardo's leg and landed in a straight foot luck belly down till this day I think I was the most beautiful submissions I've ever seen yeah he was very good yeah I've never rolled with them I have I've seen him compete a few times by like everyone's ever trained with him spoke very highly of them yeah and I remember that when I went there I didn't realize how good of a wrestler he was because it was an Oakland there was a hometown with grace he was a Cesar Gracie coaching him there and I think that I don't think the Diaz brothers were there maybe they were but I was like a 20 minute match and then we did like a sec rules first and there's no point in some last 10 minutes points and when I started rapping I realized oh he's a really good wrestler yeah much more than they gave him credit for I didn't gameplan quite I knew he could wrestle but in the game plan with I'll wrestle yeah and he was a are going to be a better wrestler than me just like my smidge you know because I got a few close eight downs but he was able to escape and then I had him on one single leg and then I saw him setting up a scissor sweep but my god I'm not gonna find my luck I kind of gave it up he ended up winning gonna take down but it was a good match yeah but you were again that was just a pristine the prestige there's no money involved in a lot of think about how the effort you went through that the price you had to pay just to beat someone and it's mostly for yourself at the time especially there ISM I don't like people watching either like that public was much like the audience was much smaller oh yeah I mean today you go on Flo you're gonna have no tens of thousands hundreds of thousands possibly watching you compete you know at the time you you know you might've get you might get an interview one on the map you know maybe maybe YouTube highlight that's about it like there really yeah I mean a good example of this like I have close to no footage of me competing like close to none I just never bothered reporting it either but you know is it was it was pure total prestige I really believe that anything even at the professional level of course getting paid is nice but I really think that the biggest motivator for fighters is prestige yeah you know especially once you start accomplishing things that you and have money in the bank you know your motivator it's gonna have to be setting records and setting goals you know advanced white a lot of these people are also going for like double old champ stuff of that they're trying to cement themselves in history like oh I'm the first guy or I'm the only guy to be able to do this you know but uh I think for grapplers not to be jumping at the opportunity to fight someone like Gordon is silly you know I might yeah yeah I think there should be a queue of people waiting to get the chance to compete with him I agree I think that like it was it because it's the thing is if he if he's establish himself as the number one nogi grappling you have nothing to lose everything again yeah you know so plus I do think he's beautiful it's just it's not like it's not one of those things where you know oh my god for sure I'm going to lose I think weirdo for Herbert could beat him with the right game plan with the right preparation they could be you know I think I would still say Gordon's a favorite but I think he could be they could either one of them could beat him with the right mindset the right game plan but I I think it's yeah in the Herbert cases I could he just chose the wrong guy honestly is not a good replacement and Rodolfo I don't know I don't see Rodolfo backing out of a commitment I just don't see out of unless it's something that they really couldn't agree on I don't see I don't think it's anything whereas roofer getting intimidated I think once you put his name there I just don't see that in the case yeah well I mean hopefully someone else steps up to the plate what is that for again Kenny oh it's a West Coast let's go scrappy East Coast grappling he's grappling yeah they've been putting uh he has bigger events now and then I mean I think it's great you know there I'm kind of envious if yeah these guys now didn't pay well pay well and there's more opportunities like for at least when I was competing that to be able to compete against world-class guys I had to wait for a DCC yeah because that was you know really the only nogi big level big level 20 everything else was Nagas and grapplers quest maybe one tough fight yeah and one one you know you had to like look good guys in these competitions but there wasn't like you know like a big you know roster to choose from no you weren't getting you know like a I don't see if most of the best rappers were coming from Brazil and back in the day they're not gonna fly to Naga New England he I mean that why yeah you know so like you don't have to wait for like a big World Championship and a TCC was only one that had that pool and then the last few years of my career I only compete in a DCC that's like I compute whatever years you know because there was nothing else really worth convenient but now I mean you can there's all sorts of things yeah I think that what's been going on it like I don't know we talked a little bit about this before Dave but I want to touch on it again is this this push we're making jiu-jitsu professional yeah right which i think is great i just wonder how it's gonna coexist with the amateur aspect which is successful it only disputes that running tournaments is successful I mean it's there's not a lot of organizations out there but the ones that do exist are doing fairly well yeah mainly IBJJF like they and their leader League Naga they did Naga like they hit the nail on the head and they have and they have a little recipe for for success you know the question is can professional jiu-jitsu replicate that that's an interesting question because when you really think about it a lot of these events they it there there's artificial money being injected them to get to get it going it's not organic right so they I don't know like I think I feel like this how I feel about investors no matter how much money you have there might be a time you get tired yeah you know like the sheiks been doing this for almost 20 years over 20 years now yeah I think this was the 10th edition of ADCC I believe and they started in ranked him in the 8th so eleven eleven eighty CC is not there right well the first few years they were doing it annual many eighty nine 2000 2001 and then up to that it went by and I read to yourself yeah yeah there's over a loving I think my OB 11 this year would have been 11 that's the case right so the first one was 98 99 after that it was well then he ate 99 2000 2001 oh okay so 13 that case yeah okay so you know they spend a lot of you know over the years I mean it's it's sheet money yeah right surely but I would say this is my thing about money like no matter how much you have if I took a dollar out of your pocket every day you probably wouldn't make a difference in your and your income like you're not gonna be poor if I took a dollar from every week right or every month or every day but if I kept doing that over and over and over it might be a point where he's like right man I don't want to give you it all anymore yeah you know because it's the the the it's it's very artificial like I said like you get a guy who loves jujitsu he's injecting money into the sport and that's great and we're fortunate changed my life changed your life it made everyone's life better so thank you but I don't know if it's realistic if it's sustainable long-term you know because it might am i that she might change his mind tomorrow and go no no more I think in his case I won't see that just because yes someone would buy it oh yeah and he has a club there and they I know they they're teaching it to these kids there and it's like it's more I don't think he was going into it to try to make money he obviously doesn't know yeah I mean so it's like a pet project so he can keep that up forever regarding businesses here in the US trying to do that it's a different story yeah they're trying to either they're gonna try to write it off as a loss and maybe you know count or something else or or what but it is a lot more challenging if you're trying to make money off of this yeah a sessional basis here rather than just some pet project they wear themselves out too because what happens is it's not just a money let's say you lose in a quarter million dollars on a show which is not a lot they're probably losing more than that a show right I won't you factors production is very expensive you don't realize and we organize that by folks to be you know I'm telling you it's it goes up very quickly everything the prize money is the big thing that's like not even you're talking about tickets or everyone hotels staff you're talking about you gotta hire people do your social media people that edit stuff you need lights camera like work it goes into the hundreds of thousands but yeah especially when you're doing the live streaming live stream like your crews gotta be you can't hire amateurs I'm guy hire good people these people are not cheap right so you got all these moving parts and then you know it's the amount of work that goes behind coordinating all this so you're gonna get a promoter who's working 15 hours a day for months and then at the end he's in the hole and he's like you know what it's the first one just get the business started two years later you're still not pulling in a profit and then it's like all right how long do I want to do this work you know and it's a very difficult model to make successful because it is that the the BJJ audience is a spectator audience they like to watch but they also like to practice yeah so it's difficult to get people to pay for something that they see every day on the mats because the truth is they watch people roll every day's may not be world-class grappling but if you're trained to do so every day every day you watch people roll so it's not as exciting to see you know they're like it loses someone because it's a practitioner sports very different from football fan yeah who's never played football but will watch football religiously yeah so that's the great difficulty and you can see that there's the movement trying to change that you see like there are certain grapplers then only compete at a professional level they won't even step foot unless they're gonna fade you know and I think there's some merit to that but at the same time you know you get your cred then shalls' not from not from I think that you've got to be in a competition circuit either I be a fraidy cc or something right even that's where you're gonna get most of your credentials otherwise you end up being just I'm gonna market mice my way into a superfight which is to me it might be the shortcut but I don't think you're good you're gonna walk in there with very little experience and that's a big part of the problem you people come in to and from tournaments they're gonna have like three four hundred matches by the time they make it to a DCC if you're only doing the professional circuit and you don't have that competition experience you'll would have like 20 30 matches how that counts that leaves a lot of room for error because you haven't competed enough that's why I like tournaments so much for learning specially because it's like three four or five matches sometimes six right for you to win we're the super fight you get the experience of one match it is not the same no it's very different you know I was fortunate I came up through wrestling so I had a lot of experience early in and every time you could compete in one match and feel good but then the next match how are you gonna feel you had the match after that yeah imagine after that you know like when you're doing four or five matches in a day it is definitely a different mental challenge and the way you pace yourself and the recovery is important you know so yeah to me that's right one is easy right is it it's weird because like in I agree with you the one fight is easy in the sense where you only beating one good guy your mission is to be one with that was a tournament you're gonna have five now like I feel like all five are gonna be like high level whereas maybe like 10 years ago maybe out of those five fights like three of them are gonna be Wars maybe two we're gonna be Wars you have like like two or three easier one all right but it's uh it's it's still the the the challenge of a vicar set like pacing yourself and like everything from it's a long day so you're gonna be exhausted but I always struggled more with super fights I'll tell you why warming up has always been the hardest thing for me get my body going everyone think oh yeah I warm up before but it my body always took a long time to wake up you know so tournaments a lot of times if I had an easier first fight that was perfect cuz it's like a home look a good warm-up you know and then like match two three four and files flying I got done ten matches in a day and I felt great by the other day I felt like a million dollar was hard to explain but I just took a long time to warm up when I fought Jacquerie I barely warmed up that's like they kind of dropped in on me because I was supposed to fight on Sunday and I showed up on Saturdays to watch the matches right and like all you're going in like 30 minutes twenty minutes or something like wait it's one tomorrow and then you know they changed it on me last second and then it's not that they give me two three hours to warm up it's like get dressed and go I'm like what and it was kind of like a rush they really rushed me in I didn't warm up properly right so the first 10-15 minutes of the match I'm gassed out I'm just like just trying to hang in there but towards the end you can see chakra is slowing down I started picking it up like I might I [ __ ] my body's waking up and might what I actually prepared to do I was actually coming into it and I started feeling better like towards and I should believe how we gone over time I would have won that match because you could see him slowing out and I was starting to wake up you know and that's why I always this light super fights because it's always been harder for me to warm up even though you know as a far as winning goes it certainly is easier cuz it's only one man and you know who you're going against there's no unknown variables whoo yeah yeah that's I guess in the gist of where the warm-ups is always tricky like for I know my brother and I we always warmed up like wrestlers but you learn your loadout from wrestling yeah and wrestling the warm-up is you know see the beginning of every wrestling tremendous everybody's doing a similar wrestler warm up running circle for roles leaders shots and stuff and the rule at least for me was you have to be sweating before you can stop and you have to break a good sweat and then additional thing I would do it I need to get to a point where I'm breathing heavy and then get over it yes right so it's like if you ever start running usually and then that once you catch up now is a even cadence right and I okay that means you've gone through that first win then you're in your second win now you're ready to go so any we competed my brother and I we were warm-up and I remember when we do grappling tournaments everybody's looking at us like we're freaks because nobody everybody else is just doing the little leg roles and yeah that's you know we're going nuts and that's where the experience of wrestling comes in because you have you know decades of government money being dumped into these tournaments where you had a lot of smaller people that actually did some measurements on finding out how you perform when you weren't warmed up and when you did it yeah the difference is massive right like it's I always hated warmed up because it's it's like you you're tricking your mind I'm like no I'm not gonna you have to like you have to convince yourself that you're not gonna gas out because you know you're not gonna gas out but you feel like you are if you get breathing heavy before you have even start you're going oh I don't want to get tired now but it's a misunderstanding of how the body works and that's the thing so I'll try to explain as best I can't collect she done some study no because like it's always fascinated me and I want to understand it better but basically when you're resting let's say you're when you're asleep there's a very little brain activity of the one you're dreaming you're a during REM sleep or whatever your heart is move pumping blood obviously but all these little muscles in your hands and in your legs they're not necessarily getting a lot of blood maybe a little bit of blood because you're not using them and your body wants to save energy obviously your body is like why burn more calories that I need to so we'll do the very minimum to keep itself alive unless you start demanding that it does stuff that requires more calories right more energy so what happens is all these little muscles are not getting the right amount of blood and oxygen so imagine in a tournament we go from that where your organs are getting blood your brain is getting blood but all these muscles are not irrigated so what happens you go from that to try to and all of a sudden because you're using all these muscles your muscles have a huge demand of oxygen they're like give me more oxygen you're using me right and that that other irrigation is not there because you actually haven't started that blood flow into all those muscles so as a result your body starts releasing lactic acid which is like a reserve tank your muscle runs out of oxygen it starts to release an acid acid adjust to make up of the fact that the auction does not get in there fast enough and then that's where you get that taste in your mouth who's gonna spit every ten seconds might feel a little sick and the stuff my guys to feel a little stick in the stomach your muscles get really pumped you can barely close your hands and basically like a body is kind of like warming up a car in the winter or a kind of like you know motocross like before race they just let the bike run it's kind of what you're doing you have to make sure that every little muscle in your body is getting enough blood and there's there's a flow of blood to those muscles so when nervous most muscles are requesting oxygen the delivery is fast because the Bloods flowing fast through your whole body not just your organs not just your brain not just your you see what I'm saying yeah the muscles need that oxygen and I think that's when I start telling myself that else towards the end of my career what I understood this I started making a lot more sense why were my part so my criteria always was run out of breath accelerate my heart rate I was measuring my heart rate at one point where it's gotta go above you know whatever like uh not like exhaustion capacity but uncomfort never that I can remember was like well it's 60 for me maybe I think that was like that uh the mark you did meet a little maybe 150 I can't remember now but I'd do that for only like 10 seconds and then I just move around for a couple minutes and then I do that again right sure to get that burn and then like a rest for another 2-3 man is just moving around but always like get that push because I'm letting my body know I'm about to perform at this intensity for 10 minutes straight yeah right so it made a massive difference when I did warm up it's just that it's it's hard to have the discipline to do it if you don't have the culture to do it like you got from wrestling for example or a coach yelling at you which helps yeah I mean both when wrestling's about yelling at you yeah I I would use those and I also use mental devices as well like I I forgot where I learned this but I would associate colors with state of preparation right so I think of like a traffic light yeah red yellow green right so I kind of actually hit him in Reverse let's go red is go right but I would say himself how you drive man yeah you mean I was thinking what colors are relaxing to me yeah blue and green are relaxing to me right so I would think blue would be I'm gonna sleep so in my mind I would just see blue and then sometimes I would do imagery like I would see oceans or rolling waves and okay so I'm gonna torment I don't have anything going on for a while I'm gonna go blue sleep green I'm awake but I'm very relaxed yeah yellow I'm warming up right so and I see like to me I see flames I see fire I'm warming up a while have a thought about and then Wayne I'm about to step on the mat like engage I go red and to me that's blood I'm seeing biting and saying yeah carnage you know and the very last thing before we shake hands or they're gonna bring us in for the fight there's a blinding white and to me that's just to clear everything off my mind and then now I'm fine did you come up with that yourself or did you yeah I know I amended I can't recall where I learned that from I'm not sure you know it wasn't because I've had wrestling books they didn't cover that I don't know if it was a Deepak Chopra thing or yeah or what no because that was way before I started me I don't know where I got that okay I would use that those all the time and I find establishing routines when you compete is so important it's like we I think we talked about this but like for golfers the main thing is establishing a state of mind every time they're gonna swing is once they have the perfect swing it's not just the physical part of it there's also what's going through their head if they can replicate that then it's like they get the same swing every time it's gonna be perfect every time right so like an association right yeah I saw your saying so like for me if I can ritualize my warmup then if I have a great warmup I will get that great warm up every single time so I know that's not gonna be an issue because you're right let's some people when they're not confident they they're doing random things every time they warm up it's like a crapshoot they never know how they're gonna end up right and you don't want to be going to competition and about two Pete and not sure how you're feeling yeah you want to be 100% like that's a one thing I always felt grateful for like I never felt like I had crap warm up you know the only times I felt like I didn't get warm ups or like ideal recovery was for a TCC because in the absolute divisions you don't get any rest you go to pretty quick it goes really fast you know that God it's not really fair no something much bigger arrests and others - yeah it just depends on where you are in the bracket and how many over times you're both yeah I know like I've had the misfortune when I was on J triple overtime and then she right off the mats it was it right with you it's like they don't give you the luxury of choice there I married you had the same thing because our match went overtime and then they were spitting you out right into you and that's what got ya the nicest guy in the world and we just went over here and he's giving me one of his getting race for my next match most people would've been like you find these any more than me but Mel like going back to that that color thing you were talking about man that's actually really smart I like that because I play tricks on my mind every now and then like similar things I can't think of an example nobly I'll do like little things about I'm trying to think of something like free sleeping for example yeah I will imagine like waves you know they think you they help me relax right if I want to take a nap or you know before I train what I've done is I would imagine myself walking to determine when I was walking into the gym yeah I'd picture myself walk into the arena just I'm trying to get myself like a little hyped up you know a little nervous and but I like the color thing because if you can keep making that Association over and over and over I think it's a way of alerting their body in a very deep level not just a superficial level you know superficially right you're gonna be about to fight but on a deeper level you go so you're preparing yourself for battle right like you're really getting ready I like the red now it makes sense why you flip D yeah it makes perfect sense yeah red means blue and then why I thought you're gonna stop at red and you were like white I wanna get everything on my mind I'm like man it's even better yeah just clear all the BS out of the way and just focus on the mission I see like all the imagery a see like blue I say oceans waves green I see like a pasture or rolling hills and I see myself propped against a tree and like in the shade you know relax it kind of live in like you live now yeah exactly two more years yellow is I said fire yeah but and then you white I almost sometimes imagine just like Gandalf the white when they had the beam blinding turns into Gandalf the White yeah yeah it's a blinding white that this Blair is everything that's kind of like right before we're about to go be the Belk and it's crazy how like the mind really everyone's a conduit it's all mental and it really is it's just it's the thing things about the mind are so hard to control like I don't I've had very few instances in my career where I've felt what we describe as being in the zone mmm you know and being in the zone it's not something you can force yourself into I don't feel like but I've had moments there and I can count like a handful where I would just like felt invincible and it wasn't just that my body was responding was warmed up that helped a lot you know my body was awakened you know I thought the blood flow was going because I was in shape I feel like I can breath Russell for an hour you know but it was I think the main thing was like this sense of supreme confidence yeah like if I fight this person a thousand times I'm gonna win a thousand times I remember the first time maybe earliest memory of this was I was in the final of the IV do Jeff purple belt World Championship was my first final idea Jeff level right and I've done really well in one all matches pretty decisively and I remember when I got to the final like a lot of my friends were trying to like give me advice on what to do and you know trying to massage my neck because my form and I'm just like trance I'm not even listening to what they're saying I remember them talking to me I can't remember a word of what they said because everything they said was just it doesn't matter you don't say it's like I know they're trying to help me and I want to sound you don't mean or anything but like nothing they said at that point what about it could have been trying to put me down too it wouldn't have mattered like in my head I already won yeah you know like in my head it's like that guy was down there's no way that guy can beat me it's just impossible and I believe that like deep deep down I'm in my heart I knew I already won that fight and everything just flows like everything just exactly the way you want it to go and it's very difficult to put yourself in that state of mind you know I wish I wish they were a little switch and I can be in that state of mind every day of my life because it's such a beautiful place then did a few times yeah it is like what you said a good way describing it as of confidence because there's a lot of times I've competed very well right and but it's different when you had that aura right I felt that one in particular it wasn't that 2009 when I had in the first day I submitted the first guy in heel hook in three minutes and then I submitted my sitar says like in three minutes got on with that one arm choke and I was right then I was in the zone if they would have had the whole tournament that day I would have obliterated everybody I was really keyed in remember I was bummed when I'm like oh there's only two matches they want I hate that I'm like oh man I know I prefer a long one Jerrica val was my next match and he just had a war with Chris Weidman there Weidman yeah and he looked terrible because he was gassed out of his mind like oh I'm gonna eat him up man they gas got no chance at this point cuz he can barely mess here and then I got he's got a dinner becoming a serial one the open right no no no it was uh I ended up taking soap no Braulio Brawley overall you won the Open that year that's probably won the open so it would have been you got triangle by brawlers that's right that's triangle yeah and it's I know you're talking because I I feel the exact same way wouldn't I have to do like half in half and like this is BS like just gonna get them all out of the way I feel great right now yeah I guess I was in the zone right there I was like man I'm I'm dialed in feel excellent and Submission game was really strong and then the next day I wasn't there anymore yeah I still come train competed very well I mean I almost caught Bella with a Kimura i'm in the heel hook and he he adds me out with a sweep and then I got Lovato I beat cyborg so I had a good run but I wasn't in the zone right I wasn't in that supreme state of confidence and like I guess what happened differently my sleep was a disaster that night I when I got I'm not sure there's a mix of anxiety or the weight cut you know because the weight cut for that 2009 was brutal it took me like four hours and change I was literally the last guy to weigh in for that tournament and I remember that a TCC officials were all upset because I was holding them up and I was like I weighed in in the last possible second and I had to do the headstand trick it yeah which people say God doesn't work like well it was it let us know what's the trick again okay so I was doing saunas steambath everything and I started from 201 they got down to like 194 when ya eat not one any 4.3 years I like that so I need to be 193 and a half yeah but I just ran out of time yeah so like okay we went downstairs with my brother and my brother I told him count for a minute and then wrestling they have this white old wives tale or if you do a headstand for a minute you can shave off a pound all right and I always thought that was [ __ ] what's happening like gravity's not just gonna thought of that for the first leg or the first person to think of that that's I know people anecdotally have done it and they said it works I'm like I have nothing left to lose here because if I'm gonna do a handstand for a minute do a handstand for a minute anymore my brother's kind of time and I think it was Lubo he's like what are you doing no no get on the scale that thing and then my brother is extoling okay holding my headstand minutes up okay I get up right away I had to get naked step on the scale and then I see it goes 193 wait to get a career perform and I just step up there okay but the headstand better do anything you were already all wait I don't care trying to think of an explanation here I feathered maybe you drip more because you're upside down or because the blood goes to your head and when you stand your feet or lighter no but y'all still are there I go I can't if it does work I additive you got to put some thought into why that is is interesting I've never I've never even heard of that yeah so I don't know if it was just coincidence or weird chance or what but it seemed to work anyhow I made the wait there but then I you ever try the credit card holder scan Oh wipeout yeah because I usually have like all baleen all over our skin before weight cut yeah and you know that's that that weighs like that's on your skin yeah right so because especially cuz it seeps into your pores too so you want to get that off before you stand on the scale so really just like scrape our skins with a credit card and just get all that sweat and all be laid off man you shade a lot of it off yeah I was there with was it Tom Weller yeah I was making way for the ACC so yeah we both Alba leaned up and then just trying to I was doing it was getting desperate there because yes for four hours doing sauna Sprint's tears steam baths it's a but to me it was again it wasn't a question if I was gonna make it it was just a matter of win right I just need to make it before the deadline was up like that's why I don't get people who like they break in the way come like bro to me is weak sauce yeah you made it that far yeah you know me like I don't know like I really want to fight you know I mean it's like weight losing weight is not an issue of like I don't know I can push myself it's harder legs I've had had moments there where I'm like I don't know what dying feels like feels like you know cuz he can barely stand like not everything just stops working your brains not really working well anymore like your muscles are so weak and barely hold your own weight up it gets really uncomfortable man so I'm two minds about the way come and I actually like the way the way their UFC does it now is way better they way of an official way and in the morning and the weigh-in for the fans yeah I think you're more recovery time yeah basically more recovery time and you can yeah cut in the morning and it not not a show it's just you know you just have more time to make away basically yeah and it's the thing I like that the other thing is a DCC like does the weigh-ins like a few hours before yeah well I think so what happened was again about my story I was at a TCC I think I influenced it because after that they made the same day weigh-ins yeah I think it's because I stalled them anyone wants to blame so after that day one when I competed I told you it wasn't his own I've been like day two just I bet meat I couldn't sleep like my mind was just racing and my heart beat yeah like a divided excited my legs were all tight and like that's what I know it's more than anything my legs jacket and I'm thinking oh this I was doing so many Sprint's and stuff like for the weight cut maybe just now no big is it honestly that day didn't really put that much mat time it was just six minutes total you know so like I guess is this late hit on the soreness because my legs were just like twitching the whole time and they couldn't stay still and my mind was just constantly racing and I was visualizing the match with Kaval like a million different ways like how it would play out and how I was gonna win and like I I tried to sleep I try to force myself to sleep I couldn't I was up the whole time and I'm like I'm Errol I kept looking at the clock it's like 1:00 a.m. 2:00 a.m. for you and five and the worst man and I'm up I guess I'm up and everything that sucks is if you have like a little if you have an injury or something like you hurt your finger which is very likely to happen imagine Matt burn something right if you're warm and you just want to fight and you got to go again you don't feel it yeah you just go now if you go home and you cool down you ice it maybe next morning you're limping yeah you know like so you're not the same proud of you warm up when you're limping like it sucks right so it does take away a bit from your steam yeah I actually do think it's worse so if I could choose as a competitor right I would much rather get all my matches done in one day I actually do believe it's easier they made it they cut it half and half to make it easier on the athletes in theory but this is like my people a lot of promoters most promoters don't have any competition experience I suspect it if you ask most competitors they would all say let's get all done you guys let's get my whole division done in one day and maybe the open the next day time thing right I really think they would say that I think few people prefer to - and - yeah I think he kind of depends on how your draw was right like that day for me I had two quick matches I got two finishes right away so yeah put me up the rest of the matches that day because I'm fresh like you say I'm essentially warm but if I had like the triple overtime in a double overtime and then I'm gonna face the next guy maybe I went some more recovery yeah yeah because but he's like 40 minutes on my mat and then I'm facing a guy that just did six minutes yeah he's gonna just by his science he's gonna have more energy than me yeah he's gonna be able to outlast me or do better than me it just depends I guess but two matches seems like very little maybe do like at least three and one I don't know but then again you say if you're in the zone man you want to do everything yeah I I've always done just one reason I've always preferred I like tournaments more than in super fights because AI think they're more prestigious in the sense where even though it's funny cuz like you get more in a riot II out of super fights but like to me is like terms are way harder or commitments are way harder because yeah it's a it's a good amount of chance in there and like to be able to get through you have to do really beat four five six good like high level guys yeah but it was so it got in the matches got easier as they went on mmm like the final I always felt great you know it to me like that the biggest challenge always was the first fight if I had a tough first fight that sucked and it happened a lot of times I lost my I lost my if I had a really tough first fight and sometimes I lose because I just cut it I never I never figured out how to warm up my body properly - towards the end of my career because and this is a deficiency of BJJ in the sense because it lacks the know-how and the experience that sports like boxing and wrestling and judo have and I'm convinced it's because of that government funding into what into hiring the very best people and having all this methodology and all this experience that the selection process right you end up with the best methodologies like coaches over the years they all reach the conclusion that what well if I warm up really hard my athletes they're gonna perform better right where's be never had any of that it's very very amateurish in a lot of ways and it's it's changing you can see it becoming more it's becoming more professional in that sense but you know I wish I had like learn how to warm ups you know you know or at least understand the importance of woman because I was that guy just kind of like like 10 jumping jacks and moving my neck around a little bit you know 365 times each side I'm good to go I was that guy you know and it's it's a horrible idea you really got to break a sweat head guys hit say like cheetahs don't warm up look like a lion doesn't warm up to hunt and now was i dead - I didn't warm up and I'm like but that's true the lines don't warm up to hunt it's like a bit wait a second is he got a point - Ellie has to sprint that one time and that's it it's done either wins or loses here's your loser that's it right it doesn't have to fight five times ten to the duration is also really small right like sprinting animals you're talking about a chase that's maybe a minute or two and then they're done yeah right so and and generally it's they don't they're not endurance animals like the gazelle or antelope or outrun them over time so they have to be close enough to them to get that quick sprint and beat them there otherwise they're toast I don't think that's a good model of you trying to say you want to be an endurance like if you're out there to face somebody in two minutes okay we maybe we put my air ourself two animals all the time and then people like you know they ignore the genetic aspect I was watching that documentary wild gold called game changer just see if I haven't seen it but it's a lot of good info on there of course we should be more green to think we all agree to that but then like it's very unscientific they claimed to be scientific with a lot of some of it is just like come on guys like really like it's I was a little disappointed I probably somebody people spoke it all I did was just looking very highly of it but they're literally like drawing conclusions off like evidence of like three the sample of three people and then they draw in like scientific conclusions no that's not how it works man yeah I was reading this morning I'd say about alkaline water right because I want to get a water filter from in your home and I read out all this stuff about clan but anyway I was reading there's no research on consuming alkaline water yeah right and it's all just like and there's all sorts of crazy promises that people were giving it with it but like you gotta spin it to make money man yeah but it's just like it seems like a scheme because see and reinvent the water yeah SmartWater yeah yes and the Cajun waters a bunch of different filters but pretty much yeah but the these research scientists were saying is that your body is not gonna really change its alkalinity you know or acidity based on you know water you drink right like essentially from my understanding all that function happens in your kidneys yeah so unless you have mal performing kidneys maybe if you have kidneys are not working well and they're producing too much acid then maybe drinking alcohol and water will help but if you're a normal healthy human being you're not really doing anything you're just paying for expensive water is that gonna hurt you it's not gonna Laci like yeah this is like your body's got its thing and I think we believe that the outside has a bigger impact on what's going on the inside there I think it does but it's like it's less than what we they're the health industry would have you believe but I remember the documentary that at one point they're saying like this is their argument this is how dumb some of that stuff was they'd go like oh we're gorillas only eat fruit and oh yeah cuz we're just like gorillas right like and it's like but they're all gonna grill they're the strongest animals on the planet therefore fight bananas and apples all day I'll be fine you know but just as strong as it works you don't really but it's when you first listen to that you like almost perfect sense Google is the strongest animal on the planet therefore you know like it does I'm just going to talk then he's like wait a second like it's genetics settings completely different yeah you know like it doesn't work that way but you know there's I think there's a lot of Mythology in the industry that's like I'm always the thing I advise people to reach it to approach diet very skeptically there's a very good website it's called examine calm I don't know if it's examined or examined with a deity and dog okay one of the two I can't remember now but it's a nonprofit mmm all right they become very clear this is all scientific research we're not looking to sell you a product we're not selling you a diet we're just giving you the research and they basically they digest and research for you because if you don't want to read 50 papers yeah because they're heavy they have to be heavy rates scientific papers are meant to be highly informative not like they're not your article on men's health calm you know yeah so but they but the basically what they do is like they analyze the evidence for you and they go like okay creatine and then they'll give you like written has had X amount of papers to support it the evidence is very compelling I think they have a rating to like from house how how much does the evidence back up the claims of creatine for example or I remember one that I was I had taken that supplement before tribulus terrestris the rest race it's like it's supposed to boost your testosterone okay it's like an African little root and it's supposed to you know increase your testosterone and a lot during a lot of supplements it's a very it's a natural rule did tons of supplements and I've just you know research out of curiosity I don't remember the data was like 50/50 on it like the studies one very conclusive there's some evidence for it but it was very and after that was like ah I'm not taking that stuff anymore yeah you know I was like I'm not spending my mind on that anymore but it was almost a way of like if you're really into someone's like saving money because there's a lot of stuff out that they had they make these outlandish claims and you just want to believe it it's almost like a placebo thing or sure I this is purse product I may get 10% faster so you want to believe that so you buy it and maybe the placebo is what you need it the placebo does work we know that but I recommend this website if you guys want to check it out examine calm and it basically and you can type it just about anything glutamine like glue there's tons of linked data on glutamine for example I can backs it up right yeah and then there's a lot of stuff out there that you know people take on a regular basis that the data is like that doesn't work at all yeah it's it's interesting how people put their agendas over that Oh science right like a lot of people are saying all red meat and process me produces cancer and there's no research that shows that yeah yeah there's one guy going as far as saying actually red meats probably the healthiest thing you can eat cuz he has all the essential amino acids and proteins in one place yeah you know but that's not very popular with people now you know whatever it's one reason why doctors are so unpopular in this day and age is because a lot of times they're reminding us of the truth of I mean they're the most knowledgeable when it comes to these things are most knowledgeable people out there there's a reason why they study so much to become a doctor but the health industry they clash a lot with doctors I believe is because it's like oh they don't know what they're talking about all this science they all remember I've literally had people tell me all this science thing you know like as opposed to what like what do you prefer what what is your situation what do we replace it with mysticism and you know but they get a bad rap a lot of times because they're just very cynical about health and I think that there's a lot of wishful thinking when it comes to it and I think we people don't realize how much better we are doing now than when we're doing 50 years everyone's got cancer and like you know autism's on the rise I'm like these things were just misdiagnosed 100 years ago they were around we just didn't know how to diagnose them you were just a you're autistic you were just crazy but or even a madhouse and you know if you're dying of some illness they missed the diagnosis it is something else it might have been cancer and but the truth of the matter is we're living a lot more than I think the life expectancy is the u.s. is something like what 73 for men yes well it's a high like just a hundred years ago there's probably 50 something yeah we're doing way better I was right where I was just talking to my girlfriend about this because she was watching some TV show and the actress and she's like oh how old he thinks she is and uh oh my god she's probably on her no mid-40s and she's an attractive lady you know so you say oh she's she is she's 47 yes she looks her age you think she looks 47 I'm like yeah because nowadays we're living longer you know like people look a lot healthier later in yeah maybe some of his cosmetic surgery or whatnot but like or all like I remember when I was you know a teenager 50 years old mint grey hair and big pot belly as that was my grandfather all right so you know you looked old somehow no that's 50 years old but now 50 years old is Joe Rogan or like the rock you know like the way they really 50 yeah I think you Joe is like 50 something he's like mid-50s and the rock is also I think earth I think he's yeah as well so they look good yeah look I'm not thinking yeah I don't know if I'm gonna get I mean oh yeah so like you know like I think our life expensi a expectancy has improved as well as just like living standard has improved on Ebola or are feeling better they're more active more physical later in their life you know so to me I think that's definitely shifted and they're good and all that stuff people people like Oh everybody's having cancer we're not yeah you know that is well you have to die of something as well you know they give you die out of cancer when you and your 70s it's not like Oh tragedy struck and it's like no I mean you're gonna die of heart failure you're gonna die of something you know and and the way we're going I think we're gonna keep increasing I want to be surprised if left like spectin see 50 years from now 100 years we're gonna be living all the way to 100 I think that's actually realistic you know we're figuring out ways of look at stem cells and what that's doing for your body and yeah I think eventually they're gonna figure out cancer they're gonna figure out all these things and how to make cells recover faster so you can live longer right yeah I think the two things are one yes I think people tend to be very pessimistic and people like to complain they like to blame something this is why my grandfather died in 94 I didn't enough vegetables there's 94 no but yeah more vegetables he would have lived 100 you know and then there's also like we should not use that as an excuse to say all right the hell what the hell you know I'm just gonna live a long time I don't have to take care of my of my body you don't have to watch out for your health you know cuz you can you can swing the other way and it's like guys it's a balance you know like I I believe in eating healthy I just don't you know got Olivia I mean it's it's not I eat in and out every now and then so what you know like you know I thinks of you expect me because no I'm not retire no but even as a competitor I was eating Pete's every now and then it's not it's not something you can't I've seen people perform at a high level and not have that Nazi diet yeah you know like I've seen it we've all seen it so it's not one of those things where you can't I think it does matter but it's not like it's gonna change everything our thing which I told you it's like the guys from from from Dagestan like between resident the wrestling go the breaking in practice yeah they go outside to smoke a cigarette oh yeah it's a thing like the light of a cigarette and they're just like you know smoking a cigarette during wrestling yes yes wrestlers in the world they were saying I've heard people when I was in camps and I was at University of Minnesota which they had you know Brandon a go man bunch of other world-class wrestlers and and they would tell stories you know Russian wrestlers they were smoking cigarettes in the Olympics yeah that's a yeah yeah friend of mine you you thought like city of like one of the best wrestlers of all time at the wrestling world championship like smoking a cigarette outside between wrestling matches you go outside smoke Oseary go back in win another world title I'm not sick kids I'm not telling you [ __ ] I'm not telling you guys to smoke that's nice my point is these things are real they do impact your performance we know that for a fact but it is exaggerated it's not like you know if you you know it's not the DDD the games I think that what you do and how you prepare yourself and how you prepare yourself mentally these things are please the big decisive factors to me that's the most important part you know not recommend you smoke but it just goes to show that there's a lot more going on than just your actual health we're sure yeah all right a lot of moving parts and when it comes to winning yeah I think when it comes to diet like you said some people think like oh you have to be extreme and this I go you have to be vegan or you have to you know raw diet or you're the do keto and think people are jumping to all these different extremes and I don't think there is many people who live to be past 100 that had weird diets or just normal diets I remember that that one guy was eating you know there's toast with bacon fat and smoking a cigar drinking whiskey every day and perfectly lucid doing gardening and stuff well into hundreds you know so according to the diet experts he should have been dead at 15 you know so I think the thing that makes the most impact on you is your stress level right people who have great stress management skills I think tend to be healthier because stress does affect your immune system right if you're very depressed you're more likely to get sick yeah people cortisol yep exactly and you have people who are in high-stress situations like they have all these bills in to pay and if it support the family and all this and they're getting sick all the time is you have a lot of stress on you and it's wearing your body out well you don't sleep well right which is the a huge thing sleep is the healthiest thing you can do in life sleeping you're an athlete don't let anyone tell you that sleeping is bad or either like you're being lazy sleeping is about the healthiest thing you can do yeah I know about people like always sleep is for losers or like no you know it's like runny the way I think the best analogy is like a battery if you're not recharging your phone battery is gonna die isn't you know it doesn't matter how cool your phone is no charge it doesn't work right if you're not sleeping you're not getting charging you're gonna fall apart you know because not only is it covering and essentially resetting your body it's also resetting your brain like a everyone they just tell you with this and there's a reason why the human sleep cycle is what it is like eight hours and like for example cats sleep super long they're like it's I think it's like 16 to 18 hours well cat sleep vork yes I do with the neural pathways and it essentially it has to flush and like they're smaller those pathways are the longer it takes and it requires more sleep for those animals you know so it's an essential process it's not trivial and and I think these are the things that people put less focus on but therefore more important in the stuff that people put this hyper focus on you know like diet is important but what we're describing here is for more importance yeah I measure it yeah the sleep stress levels and is interesting about the stress levels because it's something I become more and more realize over the years the more sensitive it was realizing how important it is that someone's personal life is on track for them to perform well yeah and people think all they're not without doing really of course they'd really yes it's a mind like if it's on you go to practice and you're thinking about your bills and you're thinking about you know you got a you know you're gonna fight with your girl or something or maybe you lost a lot of money and you're stressed out if your family member died these things occupy a lot of your thought process and they raise your cortisol levels which actually harms your performance cortisol harms your performance yeah I'd 100% so you know it's difficult to change these things and make sure these things are in you know they're geared but I actually I'm a strong believer man that if you have the right support network around you whether it's your wife your girlfriend your husband or if it's just like your family and your friends and that is a happy environment and these people are there for you when you need them you're there for you have that sort of like a happy social network right that is as important as like a preparation man because it me personally I've done best in competition when my life was everything was clicking ya know like that's that'll my best were looking back those are my best performance is when I was like happiest with the people every time like if there's not that not right people are not around you like and I give this advice of my father's I say this with like and I mean it like find the right girlfriend yeah find the right wife you know for my guys I think for the women I'd advise the same thing because it does make a difference for sure you vote the wrong person they will go out of their way to boycott you and pull you down and then you get others that lift you up you know you get these Bulls things and it depends on kind of person you're around and and that goes for everyone in your life to coach you your training partners this is why I reckon when people I'm the one of the few business owners ever I should when people walk through the door I tell them hey man you check all the other gyms I don't have a problem with that yeah because I like them I want to show get the right people because sometimes it P the person walks through the door is not the right fit for the gym you know like I mean I actually tell them they gave me you know I don't have an issue if you want to try other gyms you know but this is the thing we're most proud of in our gym this is the culture and this is what it's like and you know it's important because if you're gonna be getting good at jiu-jitsu you want to be around people that you like it's hard to be in an environment even if the training partners are really good where no one likes anyone yeah it's not it's not a positive environment for learning I don't believe so to me that that environment is as important as my at the level of my training partners yeah you know this the comment saying that you're like the average of the five people you hang out with most I love that in every aspect financial you know social everything everything right so if you're hanging around with a bunch of people who are very negative and depressed chances are even if you weren't if you're worried you're gonna become better because yeah because initially you might have some impact on them to uplift the spirits but it takes a toll on you and it starts pulling you down you know so you it sounds kind of mean but you're gonna separate yourselves from the only ones I struggle with that because there's a part of me that feels like I have to help them to the part of it like I don't I want to help that person they're struggling you know like but the thing is like some of these lessons you you can't help people they have to learn on their own like there's some people that literally by trying to help you're actually stopping them from learning I've reached that conclusion now when I see people like that was before I'd like jump and try to help now I'm like you got to learn that on your own buddy like I'm not gonna I got my own problems and I and I've and it's been a good thing it sounds selfish that you're saying but like it actually is a good thing because you are actually helping them because when you keep give giving them that you know you keep giving them feedback even though they're you know they're being [ __ ] all the time yeah all you're doing is reinforcing the problem they don't learn that way you think that by being nice they're gonna learn sometimes you just gotta let people go and go amen you know you learned that lesson on their own I'm out yeah you know I posted a blog about this where you know like we talked about this - that unfortunately most people only learn when they hit rock bottom they have to get all the way to the bottom and then realize okay but everybody had warned me about could happen happen and now I felt the pain of it I'm ready to move forward ya know so like I said I got a smart person is able to learn once they've hit that bottom and make a change right a smarter person and learn from somebody else telling them hey yes this could happen you know and then the smartest people can think of the situation before him and realize the consequences of what they're doing yes sir but if you're at least if you're smart you know you you'll bounce back you don't like a lot of people fear like hitting the bottom you know it's not the end of the world you can kick back up you know but it's just a matter I will to make that Turning Stone but like most people if they don't hit that bottom they stay where they're at forever because they're unable like you're saying you can't pull them up right because they're fixed where they're at but then they're not going any lower then I going down so they're just stuck forever in this same spot without it being able to change you know like any there's I think it's a matter of just essentially they're in a box and whatever thought patterns they have behaviors they're staying that same things so they never grow Yeah right and a person that you want to grow you have to expose yourself to new things everything people say get this step outside the box right because you have to expose you have to new information so you can build off of that yeah it's like if we did you just sue and mean you rolled exclusively with each other forever we would get better marginally but without outside influence we're gonna have like a very stale game when we start competing against other yeah be exposed to information yeah challenges yeah and you gotta challenge yourself and you have to be willing to take you know and criticism is a form of outside information right so when you try to help people and they're not taking it you know you can keep forcing it down them but like you said it doesn't really help like they have to you can only go so far to extend help to somebody before it's useless and you integrate and then you're just an idiot the people that are used to having people pull them up all the time yeah they play the victim and then that's their default setting just like always hey someone lift me up yeah and then that's why they're not actually and proof is that you really throw blocks in life right and it's sounds cliche but it's so true you get row block a problem kind of trauma anything right and then you either use that to go all the worlds I mean to me right I'm a victim you know I can you know this is horrible or you know and then they just kind of used that did you just stop or you use as an opportunity like what can I make a something good out of a bad situation like what how do I use this to improve in some other way kind of like when you're injured go to the gym you can't use my knee I'll work on my arms or something like that like there's always something you try that you got to learn how to turn a bad situation into a positive one in any way you can and then you just focus on improving and next thing you know that roadblock is way behind you but I think some people get stuck and and I've obviously done with a lot of students like if they don't do well in tournaments it's always someone else's fault yeah yeah and it's hard people deal with because I'm like I'm watching him and I don't know how to help this guy how do I tell him that it's his fault that he's losing without being an [ __ ] and sometimes you just got to be that guy not been both I've been the guy like let me discover that on his own or they don't and I've been the guy who's blunt that I'm too blunt oh I call why are you talking to me like that I'm like I'm not trying to offend you but healing I'm actually trying to get you to learn some responsibility here yes you are losing because you are making mistakes of the match things that we've talked about and you maybe you not understanding the rules and but it there's a tendency and that a lot of people have you just always blame everyone else and those are the people that get stuck they just don't get better man and I think it's it's one of the best traits a fighter can have is to have accountability there's messed up even if it was the weather man like don't blame it like you can't focus on the focus on you focus on your preparation your your you know mental physical looks on your diet you can change your diet like focus on these things but like there's like there's a theme that exists I feel that people always blaming the people around them that's why I didn't win no because of you yeah and if that person is that negative you just gotta cut them out like I said yeah exact time the person is like like then you didn't know what if you have to maturity have any intelligence I matured to go you are a negative influence in my career I need you out exactly and even in that that is your fault because you've allowed this person to be in your circle yes right so like taking ownership of the the problem you guys say okay I got a divorce myself of this person and introduce perhaps more positive people you know and uh yeah taking ownership of everything that happens your life is the most empowering thing you can do most people don't like it because increased responsibility is generally frowned upon right people don't wanna off like that rather this shet blame them to you know whether other person boss and not on them because their egos of too fragile to handle that yeah right but if you can allow your ego to subside and say you know what by taking responsibility for all these things that in turn gives me power to control all these things right cuz you're like oh you know this person's fault okay now I take that person out of my circle oh you know the weather is bad well I'll bring an umbrella next time you know like you can solve these things if you take ownership of it but the moment you give it away now you're powerless I'm like now yes you you've allowed yourself to play victim right and the victim can do anything they're helpless by by virtue of it so it's fun I got that my daughter's the other day we were eating breakfast and there was like a muffin this is sitting there for like 15 minutes no one touched it I'm like I'm the guy before we leave the table I'm like almost got to eat it no matter how full I have someone's gonna eat so I ate it and then my younger daughter start crying and like I wanted that muffin and you start like and I knew she was full of it you know but she's just playing the victim yeah so she started like you know acting all like victim I think or are you a victim are you oh let me film this I started filming it right i actually posted all my stories a while ago but it was something like oh let's practice that victim face and my other ones started laughing okay let me have you practice your victim face right i turn it into a joke so now i I kind of try if I catch them trying to be victims wonderful of it I make fun of them and then after a while they start laughing because they know they're full of it don't okay that you win I'm full of it you know right now catch them like I really want to be a victim okay be a victim they give me that victim face you know but I think that it you know it's not all situation should approach this way but to me it's something that you have to make the other person aware of the fact that they're acting like victims they're not actual victims right you know and it's hard thing to do because I think we all have that Tenace I'm sure I've done that a million times in my life without you been aware of it yeah when I was playing the victim and I wasn't but it's you know that's why I like to surround myself with people that are costly nailing with the treu like it's just the truth the whole time which is like this is what it is robbed and not yes man and it's a hard thing to do because people are constantly you know they they they think that they you want to hear what you want to hear or I just wanted truth so I try to surround myself with people like that and those are the ones that are gonna tell me when I am you know what I'm just all of it yeah you know and I like that as a coach I try to be like that's caused me a lot of problems because like I said a lot of times don't like that they don't want to hear the truth they want to pat on the back all the time you know whereas I prefer to be the guy that tells them bluntly like this is why you lost yada yada yada this is why you're not Bob reminded of one of the World Championship I'm like you gotta train more they don't like to hear that they want to hear yes you're gonna be a world champion training twice a week bro I lied to you but I don't even say you're knocking when I say you need to train a lot more yeah you know but even that right there's not the answer they wanted no you I'm the same way well I think most people are so worried about stepping on somebody's toes that they're like I better just say the sugar-coated response right but when you are able to let your ego step out of the way then the more information you can get the better and accurate information is the best type of information right because if you're giving me bogus info now I'm believing this lie you've created and that might be constructing on top of it and it's gonna fold like a house of cards when you implode so you tell me ugh you know David gonna be a world champion even though you trained once a week okay great I'm gonna book my ticket but keep it once a week yeah I'm eating my cheeseburgers and hello what happened how come I lost like oh yeah that's the coach's fault yeah because coach lied to me but it's it's hard because it takes a certain level of maturity I feel like in some people are less prepared for that I feel we've been conditioned to like to be like to have a stigma with failure right like that's why I feel like I don't like the school system grading because it's like or we're just not pre framed properly to it like wherever you like an ask for something of you try something and it doesn't work he's like oh you're stupid you know something I meant anybody shied away from that you know like whereas now like I don't mind being called stupid if I was stupid right like if I made a bad move you know oh you know I tell people like the blenders I've made in my career and love life or whatever I'm like well now I learn from it it's not like and people are like what worried about showing that because it's like they're making this so vulnerable yes but the reality is everybody's made those same stupid mistakes like especially like when you talk about relationships everybody has made the most ridiculous yeah things are tight you know everything I think every man is you've made himself a complete fool in front of a woman that won't point out another you know I'm sure the vice versa yeah so it's like but yeah a lot of people play it under the vest like they act like they've never been uncool in their life you know it's like lie to yourself exactly of course you have you know like and exposing yourself first of all it's funny it makes it makes a good conversation when you expose how stupid you were at some point yeah and then too maybe you help somebody else because they might be going to that situation and they're hiding it and they realize oh I'm not the only guy who didn't like this you know I think we've been we're living as a side where we're conditioned like you said not to fail and we're conditioned to always feel good to always be happy everything's always gonna be perfect and I think that social media plays a role here because no one posts pictures when I put when I travel I only post a nice pictures it seems like I'm having the best time the world know I never post pictures of me sleep at the airport or me missing a flight or then losing my luggage right so a lot of times the perception is not it's not reality yeah it's not always as fun as it looks but I think that because it's it reinforces a condition in that life has got to be absolutely perfect all the time and life is not meant to be perfect it's supposed to be hard you're supposed to struggle a little bit and like dealing with failure is I you really got to look at a sound solution but it's so true you got to look at as an opportunity to grow like what can I learn from this what did I do wrong and then you learn a new lesson and you're a better person the next day but like it really is a we rely really feel like we're conditioned to always like be everything's got to be feel good you know I want a pat on the back all the time I want to live on the beach I want to and that's great and you how you should everyone I have dreams and aspirations but you should learn how to deal with problems and learn they strike almost like look for problems just like when you're in the gym you look for the best guy in the gym you don't want to trim the people you know you can be I didn't meet like sin by the beach and doing nothing all day is the equivalent of in the gym only training with the white belts yeah you know you just want to win and feel good I'm like okay that's great you know winning feel ghosts feel good every now and then but if you're really serious about improving you chase the best guy in the gym that's what you try to be yeah you know like I look at my life in a similar way I'm like what is the next challenge right I thought I do enjoy relaxing I get bored very quickly cuz I prefer the challenge yeah you know and I enough conditioned myself to this too because it wasn't I wasn't always like that like I in my head I was in a retire at 35 40 and be rich and live on and I can now the idea of retiring from work is like sounds like hell I was like die I don't have zero aspirations to do that you know I got probably into work myself as good and I like that because I think that's how I grow you get better by posing challenges to yourself Yeah right people climb mountains think about what's the point of climbing mountain yeah you you can get a picture you can probably helicopter the time it's we really I mean as it's human we we enjoy performance we enjoy solving problems yeah think about what what would heaven be like you know like no zero problems in heaven I'm like I don't know you might be bored I don't know like what I enjoy problems I think we we we want these things thrown at us so we can solve them correct it's a very animal and human thing to want to resolve conflict yeah right and that's why to me that idea of retiring is an illusion in a sense that if you literally do nothing all day you're gonna waste away and die really quickly yeah because without a purpose in your life you said that the human body is a smart energy efficient machine and if you're not doing anything it's like everything just starts retarding right like no they why bother yeah you're not using your brain you're not using your muscles you're not using anything you're just gonna fade away you know so I mean you can retire from a nine-to-five but then maybe you pursue another project like that a personal passion of yours yeah yeah you you haven't had the time but don't think like because I my grandmother she passed away she kind of was old school reared all the children took care of them but once everybody fled the nest she never did anything with herself right like she you know and she had to be entertained like you would have to do something for her she has to be the person like you know cooking for the whole family right or like taking care yeah you're just doing something yeah we with all the kids who try to coax her like hey you know she was a very good cook you should maybe make pasta sauce or something like that and we can bottle it we can do something with it but never wanted to do anything and machine you just kind of faded away at the end you know and yeah I felt like that might have been just a function of just not doing things like if you're watching telenovelas all day a very little brain function require for something yeah you know you got to put yourself out there and and make moves all the way through is one of the purpose thing it's the purpose can be just about anything that you know that moves you know sure emotionally my great-grandparents in Brazil they're like very healthy people they worked her whole lives my great-grandmother she was 92 or my great-grandfather was 94 all right and he passed away in 94 he got like I don't remember what he passed away from something right in there hey I kid you not it was something like like three four months later she passed away as well yeah because you know her purpose in life and his purple you were both like you know that's why exactly that's why they made it that far but once they didn't have one another you're the ones like don't point what am I doing here yeah I'm out and it's it's funny like I don't I can't you know I don't know how this works but I think your mind just kind of gives up - yeah your mind just kind of goes like it because I think you're fighting to stay alive at that point every day is a struggle just to get your functions going right like your brain your Harley it's it's it's so it's an incredible amount of will to stay alive at that I'd imagine right and you lose motivation what am i doing this what's all this struggle for like pointless yeah is exactly what you're saying you need a purpose to struggle right and if you know if your grandparent here your great grandmother whether she was already 90 to offer children are healthy and everybody's okay like why am I in this why am I putting myself through this you know at a certain point I'd like to suffer there's a lot of pain in life physical emotional and yeah there's got to be a reason why you all do that like there are days like I want to pull my hair out at the gym like I did stuff that happens and stuff like I deal with yeah like you know and then these are the things that make it exciting they make you want to keep pushing through but yeah I I really wish more people looked at these things differently you know and I mean go and bring him back to jiu-jitsu just looking at your the difficulties as opportunity to grow like someone had scored you can't pass for example you can't pass his personal scar you should be excited about that look at the levels of guard passing you're gonna have to reach yeah you have the opportunity to reach inside this gym right to be able to pass that person's guard like look at how much room for growth you have instead of going being frustrating I can pass you know but it depends where your heart is so some people like they'll reach a roadblock like that and maybe their passion is something else but to me like to Jitsu was always that thing like I would literally look at things that go I can't finish this person I gotta finish am I gonna finish I got another catch and finally caught up gotta catch him twice you know like III would play these little games with myself to just try to always you know push myself to the next level and it changes you know like now it's less worried about tapping people I'm more worried about you know growing the team and you know go in my business base and you know I'm just other things but yep the challenges are I think that they really will make a stick yeah I think that's a good my first two clothes on you definitely need to have purpose in your life you need to seek out those challenges and like you said if those our challenges are lying with your passions and what you're working for you should be welcoming them because those like you said or opportunities to grow otherwise you imagine if you're playing a video game and you've already beat the game a hundred times every time you play it get boring you know but like if a new level comes out and now you're struggling with it now you have something to wake up to you're like okay how am I gonna grind this guy out you know so yeah if you're if you're facing people and you're always smashing them it's boring yeah you might think oh I wish I could do that but if you're there maybe the first day or two is cool but then afterwards like yeah I need something more I and yes I agree my happiest is jiu-jitsu as far as like was when I was a purple bell and I was aspiring to be exactly where I am now that was hard to explain but it's actually it was more exciting yeah you know and then when you actually own your own gym and you're a black bow and whatever you have titles and you go yeah I got to do this stuff it's it's not the same you know it was I think the aspiration is really the best part you know it's just like the dreaming and then overcoming challenged by challenge every single day aspiring to something anyway Dave I had a lot of fun hope you guys enjoyed this was episode what seven seventeen seventeen it's right pretty quick I hope you guys enjoyed share it with your friends and yeah well you guys again soon take care [Music]