BTG 22 - UFC Biz, Tag Teams, Ancient Wisdom

[Music] hey what's going on stay with Avalon you're a Robert Drysdale we're back from the winter vacations Merry Christmas Happy New Year we haven't seen each other I think since uh Oh a month maybe three weeks yeah yeah our last show and you know we all needed a break you know I mean it was a nice one too like I had some I had to a little vacation with the kids in Maui which was fantastic and then when I came back you had some family in town yeah well my parents came in from Christmas I mean Christmas Day which was really awesome and I posted about my dad's like the ultimate handyman so he came in here is a perfect timing yeah all right son I'm gonna show you the ropes so we did some hardwood flooring we put then backsplash in the kitchen a bunch of other stuffs and he got me all these tools hey I want to learn handiwork I just I don't have the time Lord but she looks fun you know the people that do it actually doing dry like I'm a decent handyman but I there's a lot more like to learn that I would like to like Marcella you know it so does everything doesn't whole house is this about everything you know it's a skill it's a good skill to have saves you a lot of money too yeah but it's a see how you get a time - it's not rocket science but it's not something you learn you know and on one try right it takes a good day of doing the same thing for you to a choir a very basic level skill level at it right it's a lot of trial and error because it's very simple like even putting like the backsplash it's like that you put a primer you put the border you put the tile you put the grout and then the sealer which sounds very simple but the execution there's a lot of things that can go wrong if you don't know what you're doing but it's this is hard stuff you can learn though like it's not something that you know to me some things are very difficult to learn for some reason like whatever reason I they don't click with me I never felt that like manual labor that's just something very artistic that requires a lot of fine motor skills none of it is overly complicated you know look at him look okay I watch people doing I can see the skill right a technical knowledge but it's not something oh I could never do that or there's some things I just look at it and go there's no way I can do like drawing like well like my daughter's draw better than I do I'm not making this up yeah there's six and eight and they're better than me like no joke I'm like I can't I can't make six-year-old beats me at it you know we're gonna do I think I do with your fine motor skills like you they some people up I think men in general have poor fine motor skills associated with the stas drawing I think it makes you clumsy so women typically have better handwriting hmm and it makes you more it's that the muscle for everything from from trying to explain it here but it makes you move you're more clumsy basically you don't have that ability to really control the that's why I'm gonna have anything's bad I have lots of testosterone no but yeah that's I read something on that's actually correlate is egg it's one reason why you know it's it's mmm you know the hypothesis goes high testosterone levels make like the the Henry or finer motor skills no likely explain a lot because I've always had chicken-scratch handwriting like man like ah he terrible like drawing a straight line is a yeah awful I also go hold the pencil the right wave which boy I learned like I grab it like this yeah I think everybody else grabs it with it yeah I can't I don't know it's like chopsticks you brought constantly correcting me and I'm like is this a work am I am I having a hard time as a sushi here no so let me do my thing you know yeah everybody was cool so we learned some stuff we got some extra tools so I gotta finish out some stuff around the house and uh it's a uneventful other than that a lot of stuff going on in the MMA world we got Conor McGregor making his return I guess fighting this Saturday yeah I know a lot of we're in town for the event so one things I find annoying years but two years is far right yeah it's been a while since my body yeah there's the last fight what are things I find annoying about the marketing of it is that they're not talking about cowboy at all none of you notice but you see all the you see post is about Connor and oh look at Connors knockout look at Connors a king of the Mike Connor like I get that he's being brought in against cowboyed because he's supposed to be cowboy and fuel his next rampage but it's kinda to me the little disrespectful like yeah when [ __ ] like I haven't seen a promo about cowboy yet but I think that UFC has they're not even hiding their bias anymore and how much of a business they are yeah they are not like we envision a fair show to warriors going into combat there's some rules they have to they they can't you know they they can't favor McGregor in a fight right like right on his own in their time thing but everything else they can help McGregor with and because it's in their interest in McGregor wins I was looking at the highest payouts in UFC history I can't remember exactly thinking McGregor is like five out of six by the top six UFC payouts of all time yeah the only one in McGregor wasn't in it was Brock Lesnar and Randy Couture UFC 100 yeah that was this buddy like he was like number four or something but the other like five or all Conor McGregor so you have see they're not even hiding that they're going for the money in which from a business perspective it makes perfect sense as a fan of course I hate that yeah as a fan as expected or someone's been following the sport since 1998 I look at my Jenny seven actually I look at this and I go [ __ ] you know that's messed up uh Cerrone like I don't care how much how many tickets he sells it shouldn't matter yeah right but you know there's a I mean even Dana is a fan he might agree with me but the business side of him so you can't conflict like the part is a part of then it can go yeah so Ron deserves Morris you know but and there's a business side of his it probably takes over yeah but think about how many times we have a conflict within ourselves and we go oh I could do this but what I could do that and you're thinking you're going back and forth and there's a normally a tug of war and one side wins over the other right that's pretty standard human you know behavior we don't always agree with ourselves right you're bad for a topic and you know you change your mind to it I think that Dana um I think he is a fan of the sport but he likes money a lot more than he likes the integrity of the sport and when I mean integrity anything like as a disrespect for it is not dishonest as in doing what's fair I think fairness is not on his radar as much as you know dollars are right I mean he is is he still the CEO or a president or I think he kept his position I think he got a cut from a sale yeah Yosi but he they kept him as with on a salary I guess regards this is a responsibility to make the business as much money as possible so he would be irresponsible to the business if I wasn't doing what makes the most money it's just unfortunate that it's put in this circumstance word there because like you're saying the U of C is it's like a league more than it is a business well it should be a leak more than it is a business that you don't see NFL pushing one team over the other yes you know like if they're gonna put like the Raiders versus you know the Buffalo Bills you know time oh all Buffalo Bills and no coming to the Raiders alright I don't watch football much anymore but I don't imagine it's like baby I'll go to it I try to make an analogy with football teams all the time because people really talk too much and I'm always using the Raiders in the Patriots can't remember another team and I'm like have those two teams and they're like I'll give you another one like ah another and I know when I didn't someone tell ya I know that see but like they're not fresh on my mind cuz I've never seen a football game in my life but anyway you never see one in person not no not even on TV not even to you oh wow I don't even know the rules I know you're supposed to get a touchdown us about it I'm not making it up really don't like I can't watch it man like it's too painful I sit there and they're like five minutes and I'm like what is this man it's all commercials and stats and people talking there's like this much game going on it's like a third of the times it was actually game going on the rest of the time there's nothing happening it's pretty wild because it's like a three-hour event to watch one game but it's a 45 or 48 minute I think have an actual play about your play so it's incredible how much filler there is yeah you know a Marshalls all that that always followed the same way like soccer is even worse than soccer runs a long time there's a lot of nothing when I can't watch so I got love playing soccer no I can't watch it I probably like play football it looks fun but I don't like I don't enjoy I think the gun making crazy but watching fights to be honest unless is a friend of mine fighting I'll skip I'm probably not gonna watch I'm not gonna watch my juicer Cerrone and McGregor I'm probably going to be you know coaching a fighter of ours actually but uh we run the league thing you're talking about I agree with you the thing is when you're in a fight format like the UFC that's not a league it gives the promoters in this case they don't wide the power to create his own criterias in his head yeah so whatever the criteria of the week is you know that's the criteria is gonna use and it gives him the power to change right words NFL does not have that luxury they can't pick and choose who's gonna be in the final exactly yeah because they're gonna make more money that way right I mean I think they would love that if they could get away with that think about if the rules were in place where it didn't matter because the rules were created a hundred years ago whatever the NFL was created but like that right there was they set the rules and now people are used to it no one would Stanford but UFC has always been they have a ranking system but the ranking system is not a determining factor so guide at best it's a guide but there's no there's nothing written in stone that prevents Dana from doing where the hell you want yeah that's that's the thing right like because even though we have the boxing commissions or athletic commissions they don't really have I would try to compare them in my mind it would have been they should have been like the NFL or the or whatnot that kind of organizes everything sets the rules down so then the other fight promotions have to work within that contact you know I mean but the way it is right now is kind of still like a free-for-all you know every promotion is doing their own things and the boxing commissions are just collecting checks pretty much of what they're doing I mean I was in it and you were probably in it for the big game but I went from Florida they used to charge exorbitant rates for promoters like it was a twenty five thousand dollars at one point I could have it wrong I mean it was a crazy steep fee to promote an MMA event and then the boxing was like a fraction of it and this was because there's still that bias they didn't want me to grow Wow right so like all these small shows could never exist like they would come and go really fast yeah you can you can't make money off of it you know and you weren't a TV or pay-per-view you're just running a local show and you're gonna PHA 25 grand off the gate to the boxing commission said that's ass corruption at its finest isn't it yeah and then I'm overtime like I think they're probably making more money off MMA events and they are boxing events and they've sort of shifted that it was that type of manipulation that was going on but now they're really a passive entity I think for the most part and the promotion's are the ones are calling all the shots which I don't know it creates this type of situation where there's more economic incentives to try to chase these money fights versus having that integrity you're speaking of of like okay this guy's number two he should be the next guy in line for a title shot or for a mean event or something like that where's now we can just make up titles I go I still you know but like it is a free-for-all it is kind of like the Wild West and I I think that's long-term debts damaging that's the thing about our age of things that like people are very short-sighted we don't think too far ahead they're thinking about me me me there's an excess of you know what can I get out of this situation right now without thinking blood in jeopardy of things and for half the NFL has lasted for so long because they have that system they've even the promoter like the owner of the NFL may hate but it's a system that's probably gonna last you know for as long as you know people are enjoy watching football the NFL will probably be there where I could see the UFC going down eventually in turning into something that is what if I kind of lose the fans because they don't take them seriously anymore right because they lost those criterias I think that it's important to keep your base and I think the UFC has lost credibility entirely with as their base right I think the fan will watch as NFL and NASCAR is gonna watch the FC for as long as they get have people like Connor that you know sells them charisma regardless of skills right not seeing Connors and skill but if he weren't skilled it wouldn't make a big difference yeah he'd still sell tickets it's his because he's funny he's accent he talks to talk he's loud whatever but that's what's getting him to sell tickets not his actual skills yeah right and but with if you don't have those characters what are you left with you know and your fans or hardcore fans are the ones gonna watch the UFC no matter what Conor McGregor do not didn't have to if you never opened his mouth again and no one ever talked again guys like me and you would still enjoy the UFC yeah because we enjoy the skill set but I feel that UFC has lost that base because their lack of criteria right there I mean we watch it still but we know um they're biased right and I think that long-term is damaging I I think so too you know because I I feel now like I'm seeing all these like Conor ads it kind of puts me off from Conor McGregor now like I'm like I've never had a bias against them I thought he's actually pretty exceptional fighter I think's phenomenal yeah but now as like there I'm being forced yeah like this like man you're pushing too hard you know like let the fight yeah it's too much man like I if I prefer to never talked I like the Japanese style things you know a lot of times I say this like oh that means I'm not saying I'm perfect I think those are that's a better moral compass that's all I'm saying for us to be respectful right doesn't make me perfect you but you can have a moral compass right that's my north I know that what is right and wonder why this is what I prefer right and you know but I understand why you know it's funny that people always love McGregor like almost all of them don't know anything about fighting it's true like if the people that really really into these type of people like that allow balance and like the trash-talking almost as a rule they don't know [ __ ] about fighting it's true like they're like oh man that guy corners it's a badass I'm like and then I could tell the guy didn't know what he was talking about like that the people that know fighting to like don't make a big deal out of them because like it's good but it's like a lot of good people went there he's not exceptionally talented he's good he's I would definitely put him top ten in his weight class yeah no doubt but I wouldn't call him the best in the way cause in any way class really or two top three really you know but you know the the noise makes up for that right yeah he definitely makes a lot of noise I'll beat you to see what happens and we also have in the grappling world Chael Sonnen submission underground they're doing a tag-team format now originally I was supposed to be going to Ryan and Craig Jones and Chael Sonnen said give $25,000 to any team that can beat down those two Gordon announced his retirement before the new year hilarious it's a letter saying about that is it he called me out more times than I can count and I'm like that's it's fair to say that I'm beat up like your beard beat up like it's you know that does to your body right I'm 38 I got like this whole new life they get this 23 year old he had calling you out who then retires at 24 right and then this I see the other people call him out is like leave me alone I'm retired I'm like that's hilarious to me it's great you retired 24 now you're giving people [ __ ] for calling you out whatever but I do think the format's interesting yeah now the team matchup is Benny - or anything I'd punch it the last name sorry my god yo nice it's a very nasal sound it's a nightmare to say it even for it even Brazilians like they have like almost like pause for a second to say yeah hey buddy I'm sorry and then it's Craig Jones with Nikko Regas yeah so that's an interesting I got my money on Vinnie and cockle actually I well here's the thing right Vinnie he's not gonna get caught right leg laughs don't work on him now they don't yeah so he's not gonna get a car Kyle is also very well-versed on big box yes yeah and I haven't seen him has he been caught in the submission I know he's been beat by points and stuff I got a lot he stuffed his tab he fought Phillippi at that kid's head and Phillippi blue both is feeling they're in top i don't either because it's crazy tough or because he got very flexible who's like limping out of the arena like you could see that he was hurt if he's got vicious straight foot lock like the best I've ever seen so you know is I I don't I don't think I've ever seen him get caught I haven't seen quite that much yeah I know you had like a rough one with him sprays but like I haven't said even there like no submission yeah like I loved it but he wasn't submitted so like in this tag-team format they haven't really laid out all the rules yet as far as high as I don't know the imagining is gonna be a submission only type thing and otherwise it wouldn't make sense you know so that's the case yeah let's see I could see Nick getting attacked yeah although not easily but I don't I you know I hate you can't even I feel like we're living in a time where even speaking your mind or sometimes the truth and sometimes it's giving people facts you call the hater yeah right and I'd rather speak my mind like that IBP matthäus hate I I think Nick is overrated in a lot of ways in terms of jujitsu I think his wrestling is very dominant but even insidious is he perform as everyone's blown away and he really wanted with happy beat heavyweights with wrestling yeah and that was it you know and then he had like a controversial match with cyborg I'm not about shenanigans after the fight or anything like but it was a very close fight it wasn't he didn't ever really put cyber in danger anytime so there's no like outstanding display of jiu-jitsu submission skills what I'm saying like Craig displays that I've seen Kyle is very skilled Vinny like unquestionably most successful guy in the whole thing but you know for me too III don't I don't either than his wrestling which is good I don't see him with all those other tools you know I think there's a lot more I think that it's kind of got blown out of proportion I was a blue belt like Barker was a white building when the whole thing yeah people forget that I'm like that's not unusual and ADCC for a wrestler to walk in there and do really well man yeah a lot of them have done it before it's not the first time this happens but yeah I think it's because it's part of that like you know outside of IBJJF world kind of little niche that's being created that are really pumping up anyone that little nish but you know I don't think that he's on port spurred in terms of jiu-jitsu and I'm not trying to yeah attack anyone but is compared to Vinnie Kyle and Craig to me are in terms of jiu-jitsu a more skilled for sure you know there is to his credit though at the trials I think he's submitted like four people in there renegade like lot he's these oh yes have submissions let's not say but again in the heavyweight division when he is facing world-class competition it's the different level right but those guys like alright at least Craig and Benny have shown they can tap out just about any of you let them you know Kyle wasn't an eighty CC so he hasn't based I think that level at least and well I think he's there there he won't you wanted to be today fanatics Invitational and he beat what's-his-name I've seen him be kind non-ibm Lucas Barbosa granted there was you know there were not the rule set where those guys are normally you know it was you know but still it's a huge wins yeah no doubt I think is definitely it is to see caliber yeah I don't think when question that I don't see I don't see you know I don't see Nick being any Vinny or Cosby honest I just thought it could happen yeah I don't know what the rules are if it's if it's I don't know how that's good yeah the rules would really determine it all out of it right like if it's just the first person to submit you know then you might Gregg can win it for the team I would suppose I wonder if Craig was gonna try to put like Vinny if he's gonna be stubborn enough to do that yeah go for it over and over the after he went the first time I'm like it didn't work the first time what's making you think it's gonna work as a second you know like switch gears man just something else you know they a little robot doing it over and over and all I can I've trained with any plane and if you ever train with them I've gone for his foot to man like it's it's a waste of time it's the same thing for his arm you can extend his arm like it doesn't he's not gonna tap right so you have to think a little okay I'll move outside of your you know regular to tool box and see what else you can do and for Craig I think that he has more tools you know I just dad I used them you know and it can't get there because they're probably not his AGame right scan just gonna have to play his B game so to speak against a guy like Vinny because Vinny will literally give you the foot let you waste energy trying to fill welcome I wish I had those ankles yeah him though I think someone may be crazier than him would probably be Jeff Glover is he flexible too oh god he is as he ever been like he can turn like that's he's standing my feet are like this he could turn his feet backwards like this so he can fully turn his heels on both legs simultaneously waiting back Wow and like I've never seen him I've trained with Jeff before but we weren't like going like balls to the wall right yeah so never I didn't know that about him yeah he's got ridiculous flexibility of legs so he's another guy that you at least doing in a vertical hook was huge man because you can actually use that to your advantage you can put yourself in positions and lure your opponent into attacking something that you know he's gonna waste a lot of energy sure well you know and and I would do that all day if I had those ankles I'd be like putting myself in foot locks all day and I could get it for good luck yet foot locks myself I can counter right yeah so yeah a huge advantage no doubt all Anatomy to don't ever think that that has to do with like practice so I'm gonna practice getting my heels there's some things that get stronger in your body your bone breaks it actually comes back stronger you tear down muscle fibers that actually comes back stronger brain damage and ligament damage not the same right yeah you can't tweak your ankle every day and hope that it's gonna get more it's not gonna work that way Jenna I was like it's like back in the day and I was talking roughly all the hard I'll you met him he's like the conditioning coach box he's like outstanding conditioning coach and he would say that like backer they when they first started shoe box actually believe it they got punched in the face a lot I was like I don't think they fully understood like you know again we're not talking about PhDs here we're talking about you know fighters that you know the technology to know how the the the research like none of it was that we're talking like midnight and whatever the hell they they were you know get it started but that's what they would do they would just like this is how you're gonna get tough and like your brain is gonna get stronger from get punched which is an interesting approach when you really you want to put in things in perspective like wait a second but it's crazy the [ __ ] that we believe now the people believe that thirty years ago they were completely normal it always makes me think what are the craziest things that we believe today for what people in the future will be making fun of us you know jazz is this extreme that people didn't get fun of us like you really believe that and like yeah we did you know it's kind of like that friend of yours in high school or you know sometimes and you know well into their 40s and their when they dress they're obnoxious about it but there's so plate to push that boundary the fashion Ballinger like so hard and then ten years later they look at the pictures and they go on what was I think it's like though you know like it's like anything that is extremely right in like twenty thirty years laters like what what was going on there man yeah is a funny picture but yeah it's the same thing with ideas is the same thing with fads and yeah there's a lot of that going on for sure yeah you know we tend to think that we're so much smarter than we were in the past we're just making new foolish mistakes that people change people who the future gonna sing specie now we were thirty thousand years ago yeah like there's not been any change it's funny cuz like whenever just on unrelated but you know become a bridge they're like I always like I hate with a vengeance that show ancient aliens I've ever seen it they have the one with the guy's hair that's yeah the crazy guy like his crazy hair is like blocky and it's so confident about it right and it's like so insulting to archaeologists and since Sultan Egyptians and it's insulting to so many people that actually know what they're talking about because we really what their scenes like we're really smart those people three four five five thousand years ago was so stupid they could have not had done it without wonder I mean under historical that he can raise so many questions claiming that aliens built pyramids like there's so many different ways you can come you know answer that yeah it's completely absurd but it's insulting because the assumption is we're really smart cause we got iPhones you didn't create the iPhone don't give yourself credit for something you didn't do with that is accumulated knowledge over centuries that finally led to an iPhone that wasn't me or you because no single individual could have done that by themselves impossible right but it's really a no it's a way of saying like people the password um they didn't know and they were just as smart as we are in fact I suspect they're probably even smart in a lot of ways they had a list access to information but they were probably hand and like-likes figure it out kind of you know therefore more handy than we are they could survive is about anywhere like we can't they had to be a much more handy that he said cuz they had less tools lesson yeah I didn't know how to make more use of what they had a that's probably our greatest gifts as a species is that we can pass or noise yeah and I mean animals teach each other certain things but not to the extent we can we do that we do only write books yeah and unfortunately a lot of the stuff the big document that didn't survive the test of time and people wondering and burning libraries and stuff didn't help either but I know when people are trying to figure out how they make their pyramid so we can't figure it out it's impossible it's like no you can't figure out because now you have all these different tools and you only know how to do it with these things you never learn how to do it without it yes whereas the people from thousands of years ago they only had those simple primitive types of mice they know how to do it I think one of the things people underestimate is when you have a hell of a lot of slave labor he can't come oh yeah no and by the way be going to pyramids there's a really good document in National Geographic documentary it's called the internal ramp theory mmm-hmm it is this French architect he's been dedicated his life to figuring out the pyramids and it's very compelling it's an internal ramp they build it in a spiral inside the pyramid the blocks were dragged inside the pyramid and there's a lot of evidence inside of the pyramid for that and I was I mean I mean I'm no expert but I'm watching it it sounds far more convincing certainly more than aliens like let's cut that one out but there's like this other ones about a spiral on the outside of the pyramid which creates all these other problems and a huge ramp go straight to the top which also creates a lot of problems because it uses more materials in the actual pyramid yeah right split out the in colonel ramp one wendy's explaining is like that's really easy actually yeah that makes a lot more sense when watch it's called the internal ramp theory fun you too but um anyway i get out in this stuff i geek out on it because when i was a teenager i was obsessed with like a lot of that sort of literature when it came to like ancient civilizations and graham hancock you know who's not an archaeologist is a journalist but people idolize him but i used to be i read his books and i was a kid there's another bunch of them right you can go deep down the rabbit hole but now isn't a door i look back at it like it's it's kind of but it's kind of interesting it's an interesting conversation because we're sure ancient cultures are so fascinating know and a lot of them mirrored each other like you have pyramids in Egypt you have pyramids in Mexico you have pyramids and well then I'm not sure they're pyramids but they had structures in Bolivia I won them they made with this stone that was harder that could only be cut with diamond and they had chiseled patterns or one that's like how the hell did they do this you know I mean III there's yeah so but it but it's interesting that different parts of the world were building these pyramids and and so that's one thing all aliens came in and they did it everywhere or aliens inspired them to do it think about this if you if you ask your you know if I ask my daughters to build me a castle on the beach you know what they're gonna build a pyramid yeah you know because it's the most fundamental base if you want to build something tall you don't have a technology to build a skyscraper what are you gonna build its a pyramid so tallest thing you can build when you're lacking cranes yeah because it's not any efficient structure because yeah the base is huge you know the good as you get higher and higher well it's the easiest tall structure to build yeah lock and very stable obviously I mean last thousands of years that so it's I mean and knowing that that's technology to build all these pyramids completely different mmm why would the aliens to be changing the technology come on people and not only that if they're really gonna give us something how about penicillin right how about an iPhone like how about like electricity back then that would be a way more helpful than a pyramid why would they bring a pyramid out of all things I mean there's a certain they lose the ward describe it by the kind of like a synergy where I know they've documented this in there is this particularly monkey in Japan woody that they introduced sweet potatoes and previous to they didn't know how to eat the sweet potato because it was sand all over it so they would it wouldn't be good one of these monkeys figured out they can wash the potato okay and then they were able to eat it okay dad monkeys tribe figured out how to do it but watching him and they start all eating sweet potato and the interesting thing that happened was that in different islands scattered across all the monkeys started doing the same thing like spontaneously you're like how did this happen because the monkey didn't travel to these different islands to show the other monkeys how to do it and one of the ideas is that there's essentially a connected consciousness that after you reach a certain amount of I guess entities that pick up this knowledge is certainly just disperses everywhere else and it's like how calculus was figured out like in three different places around the same time so that's one way of seeing it the other thing is just we're all very similar we're gonna have come up with similar conclusions right like you said like everybody if you try to make a saint cause castle is gonna be a pyramid yeah and the basic level so you know that's kind of shared experiences would be happening everywhere you know since one of the topic of ancient you know civilizations and the dawn of civilization there's it's an old it's not a new book it's widely known if you're probably read a book or heard of it Guns Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond it's a classic it's a must-read Guns Germs and Steel it's an it Walter bass he's basically trying to explain why was it that Europe conquered the world of course there's a racist you know claim my word white people which is crazy because there's not a single tool that allowed for Europe to conquer the world that is actually European every single invention that made possible for Europe to conquer the world was either from northern Africa from Middle East or from China gunpowder meets steel bronze the wheel navigation cartography you name it right it was so it clearly there's and you can't make that argument right it's absurd but but why Europe right why not why not the Middle East why not Africa South America or not Australia right so he goes on to answer the questions it finds the answers in geography the fauna and the flora available to people right so Native Americans knew I mean the Aztecs knew the wheel but they never developed a wagon why not they knew the wheel because they use it in toys yeah right I went on a wagon well they don't have an animal to pull it it's that simple are the horses around because the Clovis people when they came over they wiped out all the horses the America was full of horses but they were easy prey because they didn't evolve alongside humans so when humans made it across a Bering Strait their easiest target a lot of meat go kill it it wiped them out just like that water of the Aztecs left with dogs Turkey can't get that at Polo wagon so what are they gonna do with the wheel right plus they never reach the iron age right so they can't build like the kind of wheel that the Romans were building right so it's it's or the Bronze Age for that matter so but this is all the things can be explained to you graphically they have nothing to do with intelligence they have nothing to do with ethnicity or race they have to do with where are you located and he finds that the the the the dawn of civilization takes place in the Middle East and there's a reason for that that was a place where all the domesticated animals it could be domesticated were located cow horse I think the duck the pig and in that right there gave that region so many tools that they had an advantage over Australia that doesn't have any animal to be domesticated yeah there's not a single animal you could domesticate in Australia indigenous Australia right for example so it's an interesting approach because it kind of turns the whole it explains Europe colonizing the world right fascinating to read if you don't like to read there's a documentary on it Guns Germs and Steel check it out it's very interesting and I've heard something about that as well with seasons like countries with long seasons of what that they had disadvantages my god well one of them I think I've read was in Malcolm Gladwell's book and not the I got one I never really I have a lair so like here is that not the one that he Blake that's one two blew him up though right like that's the one it's one of the man yeah I think I was his first like big one this one gave it to me as it gets a gift I never read it well he described in Asian cultures like in China in particular and one of the things that famous for the work ethic like how they all right and one of the reasons is that that he had postulated was that the rice-growing isn't seasonal it's year-round you can always plant rice and they can always interest in imagine or at least have so much longer season back european seasons where winter you're not doing anything remain either sitting there and open you have enough reserves to last you that winter whereas from my understanding in for ice you can plant it year-round yeah and it it also has lots of micro components behind it like you have to manage the basin essentially it's like a giant pot of you will if it's not perfectly level it's gonna affect the yield so every day it has to be managed the water level has to be managed every day spacing between the different right you can't stop you can't expires high-level with a technique yeah right it's not just like throw it in there and you're done yeah there's a lot of moving parts that are managed daily so their toil is constant which means they have a higher they're gonna have to work harder to get their food but it also requires a lot of technical precision behind it so that was one of the things that they had there that makes it different then like you know when you have winter or fall spring like it's gonna change the hundred yeah you know they're gonna work hard in the summer or in the spring and then you know relax in the winter and if you're in an environment with things are giving you easy I mean you don't have to go back and you know so you know the birth of civilizations you can actually look at you know people around here you get kids that are born rich yeah what happens how many of them like what is a push in the incentive to actually you know what you know strive when you know perfectly well when your parents die are you gonna be why kill yourself right people get complacent and in on the other end though I think when you're born too much poverty too though and everyone else around you is poor and there wasn't written expectation to leave it yeah because no one around you is really going beyond you know yeah and even that circle it's trickier right like they each have their own problems right people like uh I mean it's probably better to be born rich and be born poor I would think if you have much more chance for opportunity at the same time there are unique problems to being very rich that can be appreciated if you're poor because you just don't know it you can't see that lens like why is the rich person who doesn't understand the problems the poor person we have you know it's like a they had Bill Gates once and that was I think I was like The Price is Right or something sometimes we shot like that where you had the guest prices of groceries yeah he had no idea because I of course he doesn't have the time he's a personal shopper you know I think he went like a bag of potato chips like frozen potatoes like 25 dollars no difference thank you does not even it's like to us like a penny and a dime makes like it's not there that's him like $1,000 and $10,000 he's the ceiling in billions you mean and he's not it would be silly for him to deal with that yeah he's got bigger problems to Friday it was they're showing you it's like Oh God there's these it was so forth that's good TV right there I'd love to see that yeah it was interesting and the hole where you are is very important like an how you come up right like you were describing like just with the country is like you know the different places you are give you different advantages and you have to understand how to use them I think bother Europeans did a really good job of getting resources from other people as well and making it their own I don't think they had any like not as many ideological problems was grabbing someone else's stuff and making it their own running away with it you know it's kind of fascinating and they kept applies to our martial arts as well you're like percent depending on where you you started training if you were living in scope of what you could use like you might have stagnated you know like if you train this school that was very traditional you never would use leg locks right if you're doing ejj I can like late 90s early 2000s you frown upon I know I went to cold places than a man he'll hook people and they would before even louder they would tap it when I could disgust yeah like mad at you and I didn't get it at the time I was I told him like what's the the environment is huge man no doubt um you might be a middle point about like just a second ago but like could be important being rich just for some just like a memory I was in the favelas with a potato dead back in a David said it was in his prime you know I was training under and and I kissed the favela once just let stay with him right it was quite an experience because I didn't rapport and Brazil holds enriched but in real poori yeah that was a middle class and but it was quite the this social experiment I didn't remember though that probably the happiest people ever see in my life and I think that the reason for that is because they've given up on being rich there's no expectation there's no pressure well there's no pressure it's like just enjoy every second of it right yeah they were very very like I'm not suggesting I want to live like that but it's obviously it's as interesting to remember like how happy they were always smiling man like I didn't see a single person pissed off in that place well you know you could find native tribes that wouldn't have to have no access to any technology or modern amenities and don't know what it stresses and and they're perfectly happy with their existence right hey we have that's why I always say like first world problems we've created we've changed the game of what it is to be successful yeah for my animal point of view successful is surviving surviving and I probably do you know and that would be the ultimate success are you able to spread your genetic material you want right whereas now like that's not enough for some people you know now it's like well we have to spread knowledge that we have to you know accumulate wealth or whatever did your gain that you've made but it's you can does when people say begins stuck in that rat race because they think this is what it is like no you can detach yourself a little bit like yeah I always don't be like you can strip me of everything I've ever had and then throw me somewhere else I'll find a way to make it work you know like it's crazy how much time and energy we go into pursuing things we perfectly well we're not gonna make our lives better and I'm not gonna make us happier right like it's crazy because we are in a rat race and like real times I get rich I get rich and I mean it's who you are everyone is you know but then you put things in perspective and like you know I had know a lot of rich people a very wealthy people never there not necessarily I mean oh these oh you got to be my problems too man you got there yeah it's not a very unique problems I'm looking at them like I don't envy your life you know but then you look at their house a nice house and they like what I have to do all that to my world it's my point is it's you know I come where I saw this and I did mention this with the other day I hope it wasn't on this podcast but I was having this conversation with something I remember what it was but as research that shows that people valued their social rank based off of not what they actually had but how that related to their neighbors hmm so for example let's say you make a hundred around a year I have just pretty good money right all your neighbors make 400 a year you're pissed off all right but let's say you make 80 a year what all your neighbors make 20 you're actually happier yeah because people were basing their how well they did in life not on what they actually had but on how well they were doing in relation to their neighbors and would poor people no matter how bad your financial situation is you got to acknowledge that you live better than Kings did five hundred years ago Kings did not have the luxury that poor people half the day in the United States true yeah they've eaten they had more options for food you probably didn't freeze you don't progress and your prime not as cold is let's you're living on sleeping on the streets like a castle looks like a really cold place to me I don't how many fires you got going on yeah you know like you probably have more longevity probably living longer your children are probably surviving you know you know your wife is more likely to survive childbirth so it is a better time to live no matter how poor you are but the great question of the ages are we happier yeah and that's uh I think one of the keys to that is to focus on inside all right no because everything around you can be taken away from you at a moment's notice you know but as long as you're fulfilled from within you'll always find a way to be you know like I think that's something but you were saying those people in the Philadelphia because they've learned to be happy with themselves and you know it's internet right it's happiness comes from with fannia and then it projects outside but if you're looking outside to hope to fix it inside it doesn't work and I've met some really unhappy people in my life and they were really like looking for happiness and things like vacations new car you know I got to look better you know it's always like if I win that jiu-jitsu title it's gonna meet me you know and its really at the end of the day you have to live inside of yourself all day when you look at you no matter how much you interact with other people you spend a lot more time with who yeah with yourself no one keeps you more company than yourself when you look inside you look at that picture you got to look at that picture every day what is inside and if you're not proud of it you're not happy with that there's no way you're gonna be happy you have to be able to look inside and go alright I'm not perfect you want to be delusional I think you know no one is you know we all got stuff to fix but you want to be able to look inside and go not too bad I'm actually pretty okay with who I am you know I like my you know I know what I know and I don't know but I you know I'm proud of the fact that you know of the person I am right and if you have that I think it's easier to get by no matter what you actually have in the material world sure you know you don't need to have all these possessions these wealth fame all that's fleeting that means nothing like in a million years all that gonna be wiped out not gonna matter you know people are striving to make their mark so they could be remembered through history like don't be foolish the plan might be wiped out and we're all exist and there'll be no record that humans even exist in the universe period right so like don't worry about the pyramids would survive one of the few things would serve I computers would it if your Google Drive cloud certainly wouldn't survive if the pyramids it was surviving yes you have to be happy with yourself and I think the best way to test that but your self in a room by yourself for a long time and if you don't drive yourself nuts are you doing okay yeah I could be content by yourself ago have you ever done those isolation tanks Thanks I've done it once if you ever do one of those do not let the water get in your eyes it ruins some seriously old trip yeah because if your eyes are so so it just stings right and you got to stop in the side it's it ruins the whole trip no saying keep your face dry yeah as mine was ruined because of that it's very high sailing water it's super salty because he could you literally floating on so pretty much it's like being like I guess I'm like whatever but yeah like it is an interesting experience because you're in there by yourself for like an hour and after a while you're like you're just floating in your thoughts yeah if you have like toxic thoughts or ideas they're gonna come out and it's a mirror to who you are yeah and that's why I like spending time at my so I think was Joe Rogan it was saying one of his stand-up comedy's I and I love Joe Rogan stand up I think is brilliant because he's not just trying to be funny he's constantly making good points and I think that's the perfect confidence the good comedy has got to be in tell yeah exactly and he's talking about like them the worst that you can do that people don't like that much to be alone and I think what he was me remember that I was like we need a long time we all do enjoy that but like we do like people as well because the worst thing you can do to a criminal is leave them alone yeah but if in solitary confinement that's the worst thing you can do to criminal again that's true like [ __ ] man but I do enjoy my alone time you know even though I am a people person but I do enjoy my a long time and that's why I like I get to travel a lot for seminars and stuff like that I probably get tired I'm like yeah waiting in line sucks people you know losing your luggage socks again you're having your flights cancelled sucks and all that but one thing I love about travel is that I'm alone for from four or five hours on the flight chances are you're not talking anyone right and that's the person's next who starts talking whatever sometimes you meet interesting people on flights but for the most part you're quiet and I do enjoy that because it is a way of like talking myself for sure you look inside and then you you know and you so we have challenging yourself or challenging your own beliefs in your own you know and you try to solve your problems and I I love that exercise man like I really enjoy I like my alone time because I like to look inside because I want to see what's you know what was what is it I think about this what's my opinion on this I'll be thinking for like an hour about what my opinion is on a given topic anything right I think that's very important exercise yeah any night I spend a long time with myself more than like when I was in West Virginia I was all over two years pretty much yeah the only person I saw was my girlfriend okay so I mean to me that's I always thought my brother I'd rather be in solitaire yeah I know people oh yeah if you can't do those type of things like or you have to constantly be stimulated by external stimuli like we've talked about that before and you think you and Frank also said the same thing you don't listen to music in the car I always drive silent you know when I'm at home we're got a computer there's no music or anything it's just silent yeah and I just think and that's very helpful it keeps you in touch with yourself and it keeps you honest you know because if you don't hear yourself you don't talk to yourself and I'm people think oh that's you're crazy like no like you got it actually talk to yourself because you might actually think things or you might find out things about yourself that your deep-seated subconscious stuff you never got out of you I mean they give you like deep meditations or what now you you pull out stuff from there's a lot more than there than you didn't it that's on that surface right because we typically see the surface but that's interesting is to go way down in there and you know see what else is out there what else you can you know what other aspects of your personality or you know just learn more about yourself like know thyself right that's a prio saying I got I think it's valid and it's always going to be and I think ultimately is you know I think to finish love cuz I got I got to go but like life is a journey about self-discovery about purpose all like you get the end of your life and I'm I'm thinking and I'm getting my deathbed sometime you know hoping like sometimes I must 70s not if I make it that far but and that's gonna be like oh wow I think I know myself now ya know it's crazy but you spend your whole life just didn't know we were all right but that's that's that's what the journey is man it's just a journey of self-discovery there's nothing else I mean there's more to it but like that's like key component I think it's a very big part of it and if you don't embrace that and you kind of fumble around for a long time I mean you can you can follow the motions of society okay you get married you have kids you work you retire and but if you never take the time to really like discover like you said like who you are what you want what are your desires with the things you're longing for then like you know end up like wondering what if what could have been true true that's my biggest fear as man like that's one of my biggest fears has been my deathbed and wondering what if like I don't want that man I want to be able to say like I everything I wanted to do I did I've been every country I wanted to visit I tried all the food I wanted to try and like all the things that I to me were interesting I had like I you know Dovan do it a little bit and I go okay this is I have I I know a little bit about it or I experienced it a little bit to me that's important absolutely alright Dave this is a pleasure I got class in about twenty minutes I gotta go grab my key this is its pleasure to be back we haven't filmed in a while so it has to be back and I hope you guys enjoyed we didn't talk a bunch of budget so today well we talked about aliens and pyramids and you know and life philosophy and everything but I think it all comes back to digits in a lot of ways man like I I can talk about just about anything and find a way to use a lesson in jiu-jitsu on you know on that topic to do that you know to help me in that topic like I think I draw so much experience from fighting ya know and it's taught me so much that I really call I mean I'm I know sound like crazy but like it's not let's fizzle got religion that's how I look at jujitsu fighting it is what it is my what gives me a sense of morals and you know right long it's like I got that through fighting because those ingredients are all there you just got to pay attention for sure you know like just try to be a better version of yourself and that's those lessons are on the mats that's the value of the martial arts and for most people because most people will never get into a physical altercation that requires them to do it they got at least in a life-threatening situation I'm I get a school fights but that's yes but like a real self defense scenario they need to save your life I have an encounter one yet no kind of school fights but nothing that I really needed to learn how to fight self-defense isn't it's not the it's not the ultimate mode yeah you know God willing never have to write and but that's all I got for the martial arts and they're wasting my time but I've gotta agree I got a lot what a poor experience yeah yeah it'd have been like I wasted he has 23 years of my life it's not that scary to get my ass kicked you know if it happens it happens plenty of times and I was a kid you know so there are more important lessons to learn on the maths for sure all right Dave thank you from very much thank you guys for listening and we'll see you guys again next time thank you Joe [Music]