BTG 28 - Tag Team Sumo Wrestling

[Music] hey guys what's going on David Avalon here with Robert Drysdale for another edition of breaking the guard Robert what's going on same woman grinding away happy to be here talking in jiu-jitsu and things related sometimes a little off topic but normally they'd bring us back to jiu-jitsu but yeah you've been traveling quite a bit I know yes for tournaments and competitions why don't you fill us in yeah man we just had a an event in were you know Phillippi Bob Patrick audio managed to submit him with a flock and so that was kind of it was a pretty crazy exchange at the end cuz it looked like yes he was chin uh cloudy was almost getting him the armbar and then switched it over and then I saw get the foot like I like Roberts been saying this yeah he looks pretty nasty with a belly down he's vicious with that foot lock man it's so quick too and it's you know there's a picture like Philippe you has it somewhere where you can see the foot lock from the other side and you can see that Patrick's foot turns into like a v-shape like he bends it it's it's not a quite a 90-degree angle but it's like a 45 to 90 degree angle sort of thing and you can just looks an ass I guess what just goes in this weird angle and you know anyone who's felt it knows that he did its crazy part is like how explosive he is about that foot like when he locks it like he would just jump for it and it's a lot of pressure a lot but very fast you're saying that he doesn't like a high foot lock where he's more folding the middle of the foot and the ankle doesn't attack the Achilles he attacks the end of the foot so when you feel pain you're feeling pain on top of the foot and almost like spirits your toes are getting smashed you know and I'd like to attack it like that as well but if Philippe has this explosiveness that most people don't have so when he goes for it you got to preemptively tap in order not to get hurt yeah I can imagine that's probably a lot worse as far as I came it was you yeah probably this and it's all these little small little bones right first time I saw this fall because normally we say things grateful a lot you think yeah I think the achilles are I like Dean lesser attacks the calf yeah like I shown it to me and it's like I'm bearable like it's crazy it's crazy amount of pain but I can't do it at people like Dean listen I'm gonna show you like you attacks like the insertion of the Achilles with your calf yeah I'm able to get that one that no one works maybe but I do it on the cross grip yes on the cross yeah yeah yeah if you try to do the same side like it doesn't bite the right Dean right like a weirdo and it just you know ah but he does it really where most people attack the accused I've been attacking you know it's the way I teach a kavacha does it like this too and Philippe it does if we attack like the end of the foot right so you're like pinching the toes underneath your armpit the first time I saw that was butoh challenge 2005 Shinya Aoki fought Cameron Earl okay and Cameron Earl had just defeated marcelo garcia in that tournament right that's a huge win yeah and then I'm thinking well this guy who just because he is gonna beat this Japanese guy right and she neo key lock Cameron and it looked like a normal foot lock but afterwards I bought I camera like you seem to be complaining at the pain on top of the phone I'm thinking why is why is he just pop the top of the foot hurting why is it not the Achilles and I never understood why like something maybe had an injury already that's what's going through my head years later like after I start attacking the foot that way that's when I understood it's a much better flow lock because some people I always give this example imagine trying to lock it was like a big Samoan like being ankles try to straight full lock I see what happens good luck right because he Achilles so big the ankles so big it's very difficult to get that sort of bite on the on the Achilles but on the end of the foot you got all these little tiny little bones and you can't really strengthen them like they're pretty generally speaking pretty weak so when you apply pressure on them it's it's far more sensitive than the Achilles it's yeah it's a different most people don't do like toe raises like that's why I was just doing them today you know like I'm gonna like a superset where I'm doing calves raises and then a notorious where you get like a kettlebell put your toes and you lift up and it gets like the front of your shin like where you normally people complain our shin splints I was like a good opposing group but people and they're saying but I'm the only guy I've seen that in the gym yeah I mean so like strengthing that is very minor and even then like you're doing like 30 or 40 pounds and that's probably about you know upper limit you know so you got someone like Felipe cranking on you know pressure at night yeah and it's one of those areas of the body it's like very it's how do you strengthen that like you know I feel like other parts like joints in general are a hard to strengthen when you're talking about the foot like if you see an x-ray of a foot it's like a bunch of little small little bones yeah it's not what's not your shin or your forearm you know like it's one big but it's it's I don't know even knowing tens maybe hundreds of little tiny little bones so when you're applying pressure on those guys you're gonna feel that a lot faster I can't imagine what the damage would be if someone's foot were broken because they probably wouldn't a dam is just one bone it would probably be I don't even know what kind of damage you believe it wouldn't be pretty yeah never good to break any toes or anything like that yeah it's uh pretty vicious and especially I saw in that finish the belly down this makes it so much worse because you can really arch into you put your body gravity goes on your side yeah they think about the belly down too though there's the one downside of one belly down on straight full lock is that you have to adjust if you if you have to adjust the full lock you can't yeah once you commit to going belly down it's it's all gravity and power from there onwards there's no adjustment unless it's fully adjusted right and then you're fine normally adapt even before you belly down but if you're if you're going belly down they're gonna have a hard time adjusting the full lock if you have to all right yeah I don't want me to recommend people that I just it as much as you can for as long as you can before you go for the kill yeah I agree yeah because once you go belly down it's really hard to make any adjustments it's kind of it is what it is at that point and then the bail out it's also kind of ugly and you're in town yeah so that was a very interesting matchup but well I know we had um I mean the best part of the event was a sumo wrestling that was like an easy man that was so much fun yeah I saw they they had Anthony Johnson look this is what John says the other guys fighting if she forgot his name now anyway but like they brought these two sumo wrestlers from Japan one of them was you know humongous he was four under pounds plus the other one was like 190 maybe 105 it was like I'd look at him going I can take them you know and it because in my head soon was all about being fat and I was it right this fat people pushing each other around like it it was watching them the first time actually watched it right paying attention it's very technical there's a lot more technique to them people give it credit for and you know Anthony Johnson and the other guy forgot his name like they were getting schooled man the little guy was throwing them around I couldn't believe it I saw Anthony Johnson just get picked up like a child or just yeah thrown out like huh like they were tossing all over the place man yeah there is nothing a lot more technique to it eh even their approach because you can see sometimes people rush so they don't because the rushes could also be dangerous because I'm they get tripped if the guy but if you stay still and you get rushed then your getting run over so it is definitely interesting you know is a dynamic to it and like it became very interesting you because they're short yeah he wants like 15 seconds they're not long which makes it good for a grappling spectator right because the layman can watch it and that he you know bored or not understand he's pretty simple understand push someone out of the circle that's about air and I think it's interesting I mean you know I think just about every school has a sumo game that they do and with kids i but all the kids yeah we do with adults too it's fun you know and it's a good workout it's simple form of wrestling yeah very basic you know just got to get him take him down can't put your hands or knees on the ground Yeah right he can't get taken out of the out of the circle which is pretty straightforward as it gets it is entertaining though I was surprised that how fun I had watching it how much fun I had a lot of people don't know this is gonna come as a surprise but sumo wrestling was the original precursor to to to judo a lot of you know it this is you know I always thought I'd assume because you hear this myth so much that judo and then hence BJJ come from the samurais the samurais honed all these arts throughout the ages and then later that became we can BJJ you know I've actually I I actually thought this for the longest time it turns out that after because researching this for the documentary that the samurais had nothing to do with cheated with judo hmm it's like the idea I can when you put it in these terms it makes lot of sense so the idea that someone's gonna go to war with arm bars and Kimora's isn't it Chris like it's not like sending soldiers to you know Iraq and Afghanistan with like self-defense techniques like you wouldn't even you know you might learn a thing or two but these guys weren't really that concerned with learning what we call jiu-jitsu today most of the techniques were coming from Western wrestling because Western wrestling and judo right had a huge impact in judo but we don't realize that but she bore O'Connell was heavily influenced by Western philosophy thought and West wrestling so if you want to trace our roots they actually go to the West you know they don't have to start at least and then sumo wrestling which is something indigenous to Japan but sumo wrestling and if you look at a lot of techniques and well they do resemble corticon techniques a lot of you know that a lot of the throws are very similar yeah yeah right so uh there's that link there and that's something we're still exploring more because I want to insert that in somewhere documented we want to talk about this but it's it's been difficult because you got so many stories so different angles you can pursue because you're talking about really something it should be like a twenty thirty part serie yeah and then stin an hour and a half right so it's like mission impossible but yeah like that the role of sumo in judo and that hence ejj is those are our roots you know after for watching the event and I don't think they realized that this is not just entertainment these are our roots like we started here yeah that's very interesting you know I know that wrestling had some party I've always I've read that catch wrestling actually had a good influence as well and going both ways yeah my understanding but a lot like the hammerlock and Kimura stuff where I think was catch wrestling first or I forget which way way in Brazil at least catch wrestling had a huge influence in Brazilian jiu-jitsu it wasn't just judo until this day in Brazil armbar is reformed referred to as arm arm lock no knee bar is leg lock and that was good people butchering it no no no they Leakey loci and army Lackey is how that's what you would call an e born on board that's one cat that's not Japanese asking cash rustling interesting and fresh evidence or Shep doin first with like that w the correct shop G but a so would be the correct way to refer to it might they'll be like arm or but no one caught I'm you're lucky that's what everyone says the Kimura some schools call the Kimura many schools call it a mini kana okay Americana so you've probably heard that Brazilians referred to as amerikaner I didn't get it from the US contemporarily they got it from catch wrestlers traveling through Brazil in the circus days at a time where BJJ didn't exist right the other one Helio Gracie actually crossed ring with catch wrestlers I don't know that look the Libra guys yeah he actually used them as training partner so there's some influence there to George Gracie um you know one of the founders of MMA he was very influenced by catch wrestling - he was very active in noogie he had a really good he had a good rapport with that crew like that the noogie scene in Brazil that's what's so interesting about these discussions about contemporary jiu-jitsu and it's it's not so different very little has changed like that the appetite the crowd has being entertained all the time like something you got to give him something new that's what the sumo comes in just look in Ted comes in that's where they do the we're talking about the tag team right like the crowd they want something new all the time they get bored very quickly yeah it was the same thing then right the interesting part is the back in the day they drifted to fake matches because you know real matches just stop we're not as interesting as a fake ones so I wonder if BJJ was ready to in tag team at some point it's gonna get drift into fake matches coordinated matches more pro wrestling oriented I don't know as the crowd is so eager to be entertained I don't think they would care we had a fake stage matched in and grappling match in Japan recently the contest's Sakuraba and was it Takanori Gomi I think you're right yeah they it was it was a fake grappling match right and the Japanese know is fake but they don't care yeah that's like you're seeing a ballet or something right yeah yeah yeah yeah Oh Hicks and Grayson Racing right yeah they had a stage match I could the Japanese are completely okay with that so my question is at some point well you know jiu-jitsu in the grappling world drift towards that and I hope that doesn't happen you know the way I would see is just extended form of a kata right yes yeah like I remember I told you I did the first grappling competition ever did but I in there there was a lot of traditional martial arts and they were doing their contests and we were watching people do cat doesn't stuff you know but yeah it would be the grappling kata very much right we're just seeing if it was done right I would get okay just makes sense like we'll show like a solid sequence exchange of techniques and how ultimately you would want it to finish out but I don't know about adding the pro wrestling antics into it I don't know like it where's the line you know because you people know that Pro Wrestling yeah people know that pro wrestling is fake but they don't seem to mind they're still having fun they work 9:00 to 5:00 and when it comes time to get home they want to drink a beer and be entertained and you know I'm more and more accepting of that you know it was like being like ten years ago like I hate Pro Wrestling I hope it didn't I wish it didn't exist no it is there harm to it everyone no it's no real harm I guess I still don't like something that I love you know being associated with fake matches right but you know I think there's a tendency that the audience has to eat that want to be entertained at any cost I think of the gladiator times yeah I think you've never further back you don't think the Romans had to be creative you think just gladiators at some point they had like gladiators versus animals animals versus animals that fake like naval battles that was the craziest thing to me yes when I was in there they would actually flood the Colosseum and boats in there late so like to your point like are you not entertained where is the appetite to you know towards entertainment and is there a limit to them but you imagine that the Romans have had what we have now the type of crazy stuff they would have together you know like it goes with the guns versus knives or like you know they want to use like the weird like electronic stuff and Holograms and do all sorts of weird stuff you know so even though you have see the bad [ __ ] belt what is that if not a way of just like reaching out the public and going we're breaking the rules here to give you a belt that doesn't exist just for your own dirt Ament because these guys are really good at talking smack to one another you know and and you know it's something goes way back I think I didn't touch a good point we're mixing up the different grappling styles in one contest I know a fight someone's been doing that and I guess some stars do that as well not a bad idea right especially when you can mix them up with a higher piece or quicker action because if you watch like 10 grappling matches like some of these shows I understand that they have to get as many different schools as possible so you'll be like 20 matches and like especially like Amy mm-hmm a shows like Jesus Christ is like eating fights in the car oh my god I know my guys have made a bet like that but like if they mix it up more like you said like you know they do like the kick boxing and MMA but now those are still both kind of slower paced yeah you do sound like sumo or I don't know like it would change it up a bit and like you say you you won't get that fatigue when you see the same thing over and over and over again you're gonna get tired yeah no it's just like when you're wrestling and we talked about it last time you should you just start losing your guard and yeah there's no way out of it and nothing the public is kind of you know tired of you know the same stuff over and over they're worn on IBJJF rules I think they're kind of worn on submission only to if you ask me that's why do these new things are coming about interesting we had Lovato and cyborg which are like legends of the sport and we had also had Gordon Ryan versus ticks Johnson which was a great fight and we had some other great fights right I think Maggie fought lose I Montero and it's something really good fights on the card what stood out to me I can't speak for everyone else yeah it was a sumo like that's the one I remember of course I'm super happy for affiliate but the one that stood out the way they jumped at me was this small right that to me is yeah it was it was it was so different right so yes agree I think that you know but when they bring other style but the cross matches with wrestling there's a lot of that going on it just does bring new audience the sport as well because there might have been someone as a sumo fan watching jujitsu and vice versa versatile I would watch sumo now I would have never considered it before next time I go to Japan I left you in front of the arena where they have the official like sumo grand I don't know what you call it but I was there I took a picture there and everything next time I've ever go back to Japan I actually want to go watch yeah tickets aren't a fortune which they may be yeah got a right arm off like so uh sell your kidney with the different style of match of the other one that we had mentioned earlier it was attacking grappling yes so I think there was a submission underground by Chael Sonnen and perhaps a jail for throwing this event out you know I mean and he's been putting him up pretty consistently he's giving another venue for grapplers to compete in to me it's crazy because now like you could say I want to become a professional grappler and it's an actual career path that's a you know you could make a decent living doing that but we mean you started this like exactly there's no like it's not like oh there's a 1% chance of me richness there was zero chance you were doing it because you are absolutely in love with what you're doing yeah the only prospect was winning ADCC yeah which like now there's even sound mad credible like at a time like ten thousand dollars I think I was like 40 for the open and never fight and the weight class was ten but at the time that sound like warm rich yeah you know but now compared to other professional events it's like yeah like the tag team that mean event was vennu mallesh and cow bombers nickel Regas and craig jones it was a $25,000 prize but one match yeah so I mean hey that's pretty damn good that's really good if I won grappling match mine you said that's even better yes not really good that's not bad it but uh apparently the rest of the car was really good from what I heard but the main event just was a stinker and I guess both guys in the regulation it was Benny with Nick they never tagged out and Nick never past the guard but he never really advanced outside of you know playing from his guard went into overtime and over time the car bomb was able to outlast or escape quicker than Nick Rodriguez to me is a horrible criteria I hate that criteria yeah I've been a fan of it but people were giving them smack like oh they should have done more action and when I think Vinny had said which made sense was he's in there to win yeah that's gonna say and the the strategy you know before I head is like look if they're gonna leave this guy in there the whole time we'll write them out and then get someone fresh in the overtime you can they can't hate the player you gotta hate the game once you create the rules and then people are like you know on the on the edge of what those rules permit you can't get mad at them well I guess their livelihood like lavinny's guy he's got kids man he's got bills to pay yeah you know I as a fan I don't like it but as a practitioner I understand it hundred percent makes sense I would have done the same I would say I've done the same yeah thanks but when I went to it was like 2007 there is that match before yours but I went to go against Zanjeer I'm like okay before the match even started I'm like I told myself I'm gonna beat him and dump over time because I knew I wasn't gonna pass his guard I mean these guards never been past yeah before Eric and he's by the time was more technical meet all that like I'm gonna have to out grind them and I hustle him yeah yeah he had just won I'd be Jeff open weight class he was the number one guy in the world lamp you know yeah so like I have to drag him into the deep waters and he's bigger than me I know he's gonna get tired faster yeah and I'll beat him that way you know is entertaining for their fans absolutely not yeah but no no but I mean it's the only way I'm gonna beat this guy at this boy you know at that point when my skill set that was only way I was gonna win so I you know lean I guess but like that's how we just touching an interesting topic this is like I want to I want to think about this because people and I mean I think we might have touched on it but like it's such an interesting point because people go oh if you know I don't for a person I don't like advantages or some of it I think in some situations they could they're warranted others not right so but you know rules in general that you don't like you still gonna use them in your favor when you compete and then you can sew a my a hypocrite for saying I don't like advantages but it again using an advantage to win I don't think so I don't think so I don't like what I if I had the powers to change the rules what I yes because I don't I have to accept the rules as they are I will use them to my favor hundred percent you know and there's a part of me that goes oh no for example I've done this before right I think that IBJJF should be harsher on stall even though they're pretty harsh these days they're way better than they used to be almost at the point we're like okay it's enough right but let's say be like let's go fighting back in time five years let's say they they were not that harsh I don't like that I wish they changed that you know how many times I've one way stalling I'm not proud of it but I've done it like I'm tired I'm one-by-one advantage i me you know what man I'm not gonna risk anything and I think everyone would do that the person who says I go a normal hardcore I go for the submission non-stop now you might be so much better than the person you're going against where you could actually do that but if everything were on the line and you knew you were winning and all you had to do was like hold back to win a world title I think 100 percent of competitors would do that and just secure the title and you would be foolish should be then it yes and none of you have you think your backup a bad competitor if you as a coach I'd rip you a new one if you did it yeah you know there's a time to take risks and then there's time to that and you know when like you said when it's like 10 seconds left or 30 seconds left and you're winning by a big bleed you don't need to do anything goofy as a coach I said okay stay in control be smart know the cards first yeah I think it serve because no one wants to say no but you're right and as if anyone was a head of an organization and if I promote anyone is in charge of making up rules you need to you know be aware of these these glitches that competitors are exploring exploiting because that's what they should do the competitors that their business is to exploit the rules their favor as best they can yeah but you know I think that explains why I be Jeff changes their rules every year every year they have a new rule set and it's like they're trying to catch up the competitors because jiu-jitsu has become such an intricate game it's kind of done so highly sophisticated it's hard to keep up man the competitors are very smart like even Michael Musa might say we had him here man yeah you can see the very smart competitor sure he's like he's like he says yeah I go for the floor walk cuz I want the full lock I just want the advantage so the guy comes up into my guard I'm like brilliant that's one of us ones going like great strategy and if you watch him he does that every single one of his fights it says it's his method of winning is pretending he's attacking a submission right I mean oh I think he caught someone a while ago so just watch him but a Thiru pians but he normally doesn't finish people with that flow like it's more to get the person to come up in defend right so you know fans got to be more understanding that's what comes down to yeah because hopefully I do agree with you that the responsibility of making the match entertaining falls on the rules yes obviously competitors are trying to win right and if you if you step back they're fighting if they're a professional because they're trying to make money to support a family this for a living right so winning comes at all costs there's like a die-hard competitor so you can't blame them for doing what needs to be done to win you know in this case with Vinnie and Kyle a smart move right like to me it's puzzling why the other team between Nick and Craig never tagged each other out yeah and then Nick did in the or time Nick stayed in so Craig never grappled so it was actually Nick versus Vinny and Kyle which is really weird because good Craig is such a great juicing competitor and very dangerous you know so could it be because Craig is injured and just didn't wanna I don't know because I'm thinking because I know for a fact that he got reached out a while ago a promoter to fight one of our guys and he didn't want it normally would have accepted it yeah um maybe he's injured and that was the agreement that would make sense to me and they were just like didn't win like I don't want to not show up and Nick said leave it to me I'll do it and you know I don't know right well it makes no sense that they would have not have brought him in if he was fresh yeah I have no idea why he did say I think I instagrammed that you wanted to return his show money to the Chael Sonnen but Chael Sonnen refused you know so that's kind of cool e both of both of our yeah both for sure I think more entails part because promoters like it's I've CP I've been uh have you been ever in a um do promoter like not been paid me personally no but my athletes and stuff yeah like I go and I win and like don't collect my prize just I'll pay you next week gone I never seen I'd say it happened to my brother in the same event I was competing in well what they did they gypped him in a decision really bad like any matter we watch the video afterwards it wasn't some small Texas promotion and if you would have scored it by IBF standards it would have been 22 to my brother and they gave the decision to the other guy and they said because aggression I'm like I don't know how that is even possible right it was the one time that they can call that rappelled mad because it was just before me and my brother did a little Hickson he throw a water bottle it was pretty pissed and it turns out what happened was the guy that he was competing against I guess was a friend of the promoter and wasn't getting paid if you want whereas my brother was getting oh that explains so they were willing and the event bombed right it's nobody this is what happened and so then I was go up they and he always a gets George Pereira remember I was furious I like I'm I ran to drug pariah after that but uh yeah that was at one time I know that my brother AZ man yeah he's just trying to save money dancing well the correct thing for promoted is to have the money a set aside beating before he starts to promote the show right yeah I mean I understand the you know when you're promoting events there's a big gamble I've promoted a lot of events for grappling and whatnot but you can't stiff competitor ya know to me that's like I ask someone who's competed I don't want that being done to me on the other side so I'm not gonna do it to other people you know golden war right that right it really is coming behavior though I marry guys who are writing I mean I not to speak ill of the dead but back in a day the guy who ran world extreme fighting Jamie Levine he would eat writing busted checks all the time you know yeah and I remember people would keep fighting for him I'm like what are you doing oh no dude but it's not gonna happen to me tell you this like a while ago um there was the last minute Morris who actually took a place inside the Gracie Academy I tell you that story no no so that last middle Morris took place inside the original Gracie Academy with the green mats right and I think it was rollick versus Gordon um if I recall it yeah and they had offered me that match not rollicking up from being boarded I'm like oh I'm retired you're not interested but you know if you guys pay me really well I'll take two three months out of my life I'll put everything else on hold and I'll go out there and I'll throw up give him a war you know I'll give him my very best you know he's sharp he's really you know he's a very dominant competitor I've been retired for ten years so it's it's a huge it's a huge investment on my part to go back into training mode and just so sure that put in all my seminars my class is my business is aside to just focus on that right so I go okay this is how much I want ask for 50 grand right oh we can't pay you that much can't pay that much they brought it down to 30 right I'm okay I'll do it 30 grand and then they go okay we'll pay you off the show no that money's gotta go in an escrow account right and they're like no no no we're good we're good we're gonna no I know of your guys reputation you guys put that money in an escrow account we can make this happen right and you know so that was it and then they and they they couldn't find anyone because no one would do it Yeah right that's why ralick himself in a minute of grappling you know the whole thing was a flop obviously didn't I mean they had the event inside the gym so what does that tell you yeah yeah you know the glory glory days of metamoris are we well behind us they were the first SEC know that I think about it they're like that they started a trend of professional events was before that there was not a lot going on like there were something sporadic ones before that but like the word but they only went for Network consistent system putting stuff out but you know unfortunately sometimes being first isn't that the way to go because what you thank you - but you've done this you blazed the trail but you've taken all the expense yeah right and now everybody else as you fall off this is gonna write what you like though the momentum for everyone else yes I don't know what metamoris means do you know Google then wants and nothing came up there's a tournament I'm like it kind of means something weird I'm assuming like when I hear cus I I don't know whatever researcher but I'm assuming it means something it's like it's probably something in Japanese right it's gotta be you would think so but there's brands that are you know haagen-dazs right yeah it means absolutely nothing really it's a fake word it's not it's not a German brand no in that German Dutch or anything we determine or - that's the first thing that's going through my hell first shirts is Dutch ice cream German American brand just again - they just named it hugging us because they know it sounds like it maybe not whatever have-have haagen-dazs again that is they're paying four dollars for the same believable I actually thought it was like some you that's the first thing you want you think one it's just like the problem with all the assumptions we make about [ __ ] right I thought it was like all there must be a family somewhere in Holland it has been making ice cream for 600 years here you know and this is like some family recipe because it's that's what it sounds like it's super expensive yeah it's very boutique right yeah it's a very European name you know I want to say like Dutch it sounds like you know that way you know maybe Scandinavian right and so like it's got to be good because it's not expensive it is delicious but you have that just ruin you just ruined it for me is this a marketing it's made by dryers you know who make ice cream for Breyers and really yeah same company it's just kind of like Toyota and Lexus let's come up with a new brand of digits what's the name it's something else let's make up some crazy name and charge people more for it yeah whatever come on no it's interested because you know it does you look at how many people they tricked with with that like they just came up with that was brilliant yeah it was brilliant and they they so many people fell for it I wonder if there's now I'm trying to think well how can i trick people and they're giving me their money right you know but it's um that's exactly it's brilliant marketing that's what it comes down to yeah I had no idea that was it was a made-up name it is you know even a lot of stuff good branding goes a long way coca-cola you know Santa Claus red and white Oh cut Cola coca you know that comes from right yeah yeah yeah but you know that's the image of Santa Claus being red and white was developed by coca-cola the original Santa Claus was Green right really PE it was a it wasn't a festive outfit yeah because it was supposed to be a different origin story but coca-cola branded him in their in their in their branding and then they put him in red and white and now that's the symbolic image of Santa brilliant you know and that was made by coca-cola which is you know yeah pretty wild it whatever it's company has created what is probably the most important holiday in North America probably though I mean let's take out China and India I'm not sure what their holidays would be with them in the Western world for sure yeah yeah that hold that that's wild man but coca-cola at that point they would have had such a huge budget for marketing and Santa Claus was not that big of a thing probably so it would have been easier to make the image of Santa Claus a red and white Santa Claus right away from Green interesting like you go to Turkey and they swear Santa Clauses from Turkey it's uh it's uh it's a saint I don't know if it's from the Orthodox religion or the Catholic religion but and then in Finland these sores from Finland now I would think it's from Finland but apparently there's no saint from Finland mm-hmm so maybe I don't know where that the origin of Santa Claus but it's not green or white it's just like a normal st. but uh yeah man like I know the marketing thing is wild man like it's such a today - it's one of those things were so many people are doing the same things like the internet has been flooded with like attempted selling you [ __ ] I just scroll past everything I don't listen to anything anymore like how do you even capture us think about this how do you capture people's attention like just any kind of set of trying to sell them like a book that's on DVD a membership it's so hard to catch people's attention because people are just scrolling through it's like pitch after pitch after they we are overwhelmed with sales pitches it's like you're going down a subway tunnel and there's ads all across the wall you don't you don't know for you like don't leave me alone like that's the best pitch right now just like leave the customer alone like whatever company leaves me alone is the one I want to give my money to you know it's pretty Wow you know or the Kent Peters I think who can Peters he has an Instagram the followings except for natural he has a school and I think as a farm and he's been doing jujitsu videos forever in a really good instruction and I guess he started a tick tock account yeah and just you know for shits and giggles he showed a video of him cutting open a bale of hay yeah and you're like whatever you know it's just I'm doing something I'm gonna film it that became like his most popular video and he got like millions of views and his tick-tock went from like whatever to like tens of thousands of people I I don't know people liked the way it looked because when you cut the bale hay open up a certain way I saw him like I don't get it but like apparently it just went viral so you have to you have to surprise the public that's what it comes out you can't give them the average we can't give them what they have seen like you probably did something no one's expected and that's why I blow up I don't know so you got people there I guess from outside of judicial circles that just whatever reason like somebody couldn't open a bale of hay there's something that like he said he's jokes about himself away I guess I gotta cut open where a thing go like Afghan people tell me that Rob you should post more Rob you gotta do this you gotta do that like it's got time for this [ __ ] I got job man like I work to do I don't have time to like like my daughter's like on tik-tok now like I let him Saul I could take taka counter I do like daddy daddy I got six followers oh my god why can't we go you know and they're like doing videos and stuff and I let it because it's it's pretty innocent you know I just wanted her like there's no one talking to them you know but if trying to post videos it doesn't bother me but it's it's crazy man I guess it's a lot of work like they'll spend like I mean they're little but so they spend a lot of time you know editing the videos and putting it together I'm like I don't have time for this like if you were like a five-second thing I can see myself doing it but you know sometimes a post like you spin like you know every now and then I gotta I want to type something my finger serves I'll use like my laptop to type something because a little bit more dense and it takes a good 20 minutes of your day depending on like how don't much time you want to put into the post if you don't do it right right and it takes it takes a lot of your time and I'm just not willing to give that much of my time I really want to hire someone do it you know if you're listening and you want to run do all my social media I have a job for you yeah I agree you know I think I chose Joe Rogan and he was talking about in the past people would play computer games and go on the computer on the internet to get an escape in the real world and now like people go into the real world it is Keith Internet because yeah people all the time like resemble vacationing canteens are all detoxing from yeah a tech diet yeah that's what I call it Tech diet me and you you got to go through that it's actually very peaceful sometimes when I travel I I have my phone on airplane mode I could turn it on like I memorized it's like 10 bucks a day yeah and I have like my normal data right but you know I'm a cheap bastard plus it hunting joy not having my phone on all the time so I only get the Wi-Fi when I'm at the hotel whatever I mean I'm like flooded with like 50 messages I'm like Fox over the next hour at least I'm like replying but then I am free for my phone for the next 12 hours and then I have it for an hour I have to reply to everyone and that's actually it's actually crazy but it's so much it's so peaceful I was want to have my plan on airplane mode all day I even here and I just reply to people when I get home and I have Wi-Fi so it leaves me it gives me a break from having to reply to people immediately I shouldn't I might start doing that man because it's it's so like I'm averaging like six hours a day on my phone screen time alright and it's all replace all work I don't [ __ ] I play clash of clans it's like three minutes you know and then that's it and there everything else is work work like replying and people doing stuff and it's consuming so much of my day it's actually stopping me from being productive in a way that I know I can be productive and I want to be productive in that way right I will tell you when I told my brother are your years ago I heard loitering introduced me to his marketing guru Dan Kennedy and Dan Kennedy has a book called no BS high management right and very fun book that's a excellent writer makes it easy to read but one of the premises is that having a phone on your mobile phone is essentially inviting people to interrupt you whenever they want right bingo that's it so his thing was don't have a mobile phone that was one if the extreme option it was don't have a mobile phone you have a landline or that's all you need and you gotta train people that think that they can access you when there were they won there's specific times a day and you're accessible just like a business would be right at 95 or whatever yeah you know and for him if you're an executive that's very busy you can't even have back you need someone to screen your calls because the last thing you want is a telemarketer wasting your time and we especially if you're in a creative field like you know what we are you get into a flow State at a certain point usually when you're not trying to create a project of your writing or you're doing video editing and whatnot you have to think for a moment and then things start to come together and then you get a flow right just like grapplers you start grappling and you get into a flow State but if someone pulls you away from that flow State just for like a minute or two now it's like starting all over again saying okay wait where was I [ __ ] you don't owe us describe my day man right that's exactly what happens so those interruptions that can come in all the time will ruin you you know you're gonna be very unproductive as a result so that's why secretaries were and there are important because they're a layer protection like imagine you have a shield around you yeah you have a filter so only the urgent information that needs to be dealt with and a right now it's convey to you otherwise it's [ __ ] take it out orbit son that could be delayed later it later till later you know like maybe you have a designated time when your answer calls by the sixth this is when I go through all my emails or go through all my calls so he has this particular strategy that he incorporates what's a call no BS time management by Dan Kennedy I should write remember I had told because I had read the book and I actually you really want to read that now I told my brother check it out my brother read it and what he did he got rid of a cell phone completely completely and then he would essentially take calls in the gym and that was it and you know if anything was urgent they email them and then my brother how did he talk to his wife if he has to you didn't yeah he would just he would go over here from the office he would call her and whatnot because the excuses always what was an emergency everyone's like the merge that's why I got I got my my seven-year-old a cell phone because it's an emergency right what if it but so everyone's worried about that one moment where you absolutely need to find someone but that never happens it's always the [ __ ] you got to deal with yeah that means when you were a kid when Eric we didn't have cellphones and we managed to survive yeah is there emergency you go to a fun one you you you flag the hundred million other people with herself okay so I think it's very rare but yeah she recently he got her cell phone broke down I think partly because he needs to film and you liked having the phone to be able to film and access the Internet but uh you can still practice it the same thing which is that every time the phone rings people condition to be like I don't that's me you know it's like what are you right chasing cheese you're like the phone ring like for me when the phone rings I don't run any I just okay it's ringing and I try to make my ring as subtle as possible so I just know as a call and I don't answer all my calls I go I'll send that to voicemail and then I'll call that person back later right no offense but you're right or they give it's a text message or something like okay I'll show that I I want to learn how to do that because I become so impulsive on my phone I can't stop myself from replying like I have to reply right away and I'm pretty good about it like I'm normally if I don't reply within like three four hours it's because I'm really busy um you know and very unusual situation I forgot right very unusual norm that I replied right away I'm merely quick about it because I got so many got so many things going on that I know that if I don't reply right away I'm probably to forget I got to do it now sure but at the same time I've become a slave to my phone because everyone knows they can reach out to me any time and then just might it just takes all my day away from me I would love if I didn't have a phone I wouldn't want to understand get rid of it I think I'd be more efficient if I didn't have a phone but at the same time like a big part of my job is communicating with people so I don't know how that would work you see so the way you got to see it that you want your phone like alright and again I think paraphrasing from him having a cell phone on you isn't it necessarily a bad thing because when you want to reach out to people you want that ability but having an unfiltered incoming call going into you is not desirable for right so the whole thing is yeah you can have a cellphone and if I need to email people or text or call people you do that but I want to limit the amount of time that people are able to contact me in a flow state I mean it's not like you just have to be able to block your schedule accordingly like okay you know if I'm gonna be doing this marketing project from 10:00 to 1:00 I'm not taking any calls or anything that I think sometimes I just put my phone on silent that point like I don't even I don't even hear anything and then when that time is done okay one o'clock okay got these calls see I've done that I might have my phone on silent I have all my notifications off I don't have a single notification I the only under four kitchen I have on my daughters when daughters call me that notification comes up other than then no one else right but I become so impulsive about checking my phone that while we're talking here I've had like two or three instances what I wanted to reach for my phone and check it yeah it's an instinct you just get used to that it's a habit of checking your phone all the time that I want to break because you're right what I might do man I uh I'm honestly thinking about only having my phone off like maybe like aside to three hours a day and I reply to everyone I got to reply to and I'll put it back on airplane mode and if I need to reach out to someone I can switch it back on yeah because it does interrupt me a lot especially like when I'm reading or you know working doing something like my thought process gets thrown and I got a DD man from you know I when I get a mic my rabbit holes I'm very focused like a laser focus but for you to if you push me off that track sometimes it's like I can't even get back on it especially when I'm writing like I know I'm good when I write I lock myself in my room don't knock on it because I get takes me an hour to the warm up and after that I'm like I'm very productive I feel like but you know if my phone rings or someone techs gonna have to reply it just prevents my creative side to manifest itself I get stuck in this production go-go-go you know um you know we become like a slave those your watch to the time you know like everything's and I truly believe that in order for you to be creative you have to be idle there's no creativity that's gonna come from being busy when you're busy you're gonna [ __ ] done creativity as in like I'm talking about art I'm talking about writing right these require inspiration I feel like you have to be sort of quiet I don't have my best moments my inspirational moments right before I go to bed you know why it's the one time of the day where everything is quiet I don't want to check my phone there's no music there's no cell there's no one it's just me I go quiet and I go inside my head and then that's when I have my best ideas because it's idle right when I'm on vacation it's not very often but like if I have like quiet by myself I'm just walking around chillin by the beach that's when I feel like my best ideas comments cuz I'm like my brain is actually able to think yeah right was if I'm busy teaching class answering phone calls replying to texts I had to give it out orders I don't feel I'm very productive like and predict them a different way I'm productive and I'm getting [ __ ] done wait but not in a creative way right yeah being in a creative field is a different challenge right like I've done other things where it's there's no creativity required you just have to be able to do hard work and whatnot and that is that mentally stressful as it is physically right it's just you're doing manual labor or something that and you already know the process to build something then you're just doing the computation yeah whereas when you have to think about how to solve a problem or you have to create something to solve a problem it requires a different state of mind and what you said it's different for everybody but yeah sleeping is usually around a good time because like you said you're relaxed you're kind of in a meditative state and your things are able to come out you know when you're really busy you know you don't have a mental space to do so you know you're you're already trying to handle all the other crap that's going on your day you don't have time to be creative right so I think that's why I like setting those blocks schedule is important where like you block out certain amount of time okay this time that's what I got it yeah like you know like ten to one marketing time that's it there's nothing else I don't off or phones on silent you know and I'm just doing that and you give you the best odds especially you have a regular schedule where every time you're doing that it kind of helps set you okay this is my time to work you know when you're a lot more sporadic and random that it's it's trickier because like you could be doing anything at any time that's me like my date I don't have a setup you watch my schedule and I don't have one it's just like I start my date around 8:00 a.m. and I don't stop till 10:00 p.m. yeah that's my like wow I'm not even exaggerating or like those are my days right and it's I'm busy all day but I'm always productive it's or creative it's just like and I'm like what did i do - and I'm like I can't name a single productive thing I've done today but I haven't stopped right yeah yeah it's like reactive right we're like there's situations arising and you have to react with I mean yes yes but you're not able to do anything yeah in that same book and talking about that how they say executives only actually have eight minutes of or it was some ridiculously small number of actually productive time of day because the rest of it is in there not organized is reactive they're just dealing with the small crises that are going on and yeah they get pulled from one side to the other before they're okay what am I actually gonna do to help move my agenda forward you know they just don't get the time so like that again then for this book davis owner of the hoofprint company it goes over the strategies of how to layer yourself and protect yourself and even has a concept which it's funny it's called time vampire yeah right these are people that just sink their fangs and you just drain all your time it's like the person that just wants to talk BS with you all day yeah you know they're like and you're you're trying to get away from them you can't but now like it's really polite and to be polite but now that can out where your time just got drained away my biggest peeve is stress it crazy I'm a very objective person and I feel like I can be very productive I'm a very go-go-go kind of guy I hate when people repeat themselves it's like people like the sound of their own voice and like tell me what you need to tell me say it in 15 seconds and then and normally people gonna say it in 15 seconds but they'll take three minutes to say it it's like they enjoy repeating themselves over and over and over for some reason like I got it the first time man and I'm right I I'm not sure get it becoming a dick about it I interrupt them yeah and I move on to the next one and then they try to go back to repeating where there's a I understood that I already got that and it's impossible because ii started doing that now you're rude and then my right at the same time I don't want to repeat hear it again I got [ __ ] to do man I gotta go I can't be like listening to your story over and over and over just tell me what I got I need to know and let me get go get it done I just watching Kirby enthusiasm I don't know what is that oh the probably gotta watch it is it comedy without me company so it's Larry David he's a guy who produced Seinfeld okay so when people don't know that Larry David essentially modeled George Costanza after like an exaggerated version of himself who's Costanza I had never watched Seinfeld oh Jesus I was in Brazil during those years I missed all that really eccentric character that's socially awkward it was that funny hair he's the one that's bold that's Kramer Kramer Oliver is another reason really eccentric airbrake George Costanza is just like this is really a headcase kind of yeah and puts himself in always awkward positions by lying and trying out of it so Larry David in Kirby enthusiasm he plays himself they get like an exaggerated version of himself awesome he's just a very blunt guy like and he has no BS you know no [ __ ] to give a bit of bluntly so yeah simple situation in the show where this guy was trying to explain something that was very obvious and they keep this coming oh I get it I get it to stop me there yeah before number you're calling me on the phone and of course I have you to stop you know it's why I think it's a great show yes it highlights what everybody's yeah maybe identified two went to the yeah character but anybody has those thoughts you know but they're usually yeah they don't say that because any socially awkward what's this all again Curb Your Enthusiasm is it on Netflix where is it it's on HBO okay so it's like us it's like ten seasons or what that pretty fresh show it's always pretty funny very politically incorrect and all that so it's refreshing yeah it's really funny but it kind of goes to what you're saying we're like we're in polite society we have all these filters right like because we don't want to offend or you know you don't to cut someone off and hurt their feelings but if we were mature enough and we could just remove all the filters and just say was actually going on without people being offended then you have a much more clear-cut communication I think yeah but if we have to play with all these rules then it's like a calculation like okay like everybody gets into the situation like you get invited to some type of party that you don't want to go to know how do you refuse it alright the girl you lie well people a lot of people I hear I think they make a story up cuz you don't heard the person's feelings yeah so your ideas well by light of this person they're like oh it's a good lie you know they believe the story there are feelings in that hurt and then I'm able to do whatever I really wanted yeah versus if I just say hey look I still want to go you know like this I know you're a dick but yeah that's a good time to invite him to this special event that I'm planning anything that you think he is exactly for my party yeah yeah I remember it was a point like there was like some dispute and I was invited to a wedding okay violence in a party like a robbery just don't want to go I don't think I'd be offended like I may be a little bit like I don't know I don't think so I don't see myself caring that much no party person and I will almost appreciate the honesty like because people don't talk that way you know I people like they you know you never know when their [ __ ] I like genuine people right so I always I always say this I want to vote for the politician that walks up there and goes yeah I cheated on my wife once I smoke weed almost every day I I've done cocaine about five times my life I didn't had any politician went up there and actually told me the truth I'd be like I like that guy you know I'm saying no understand exactly like a man but you know what and they're gonna say you know what I really want to do this this isn't that I'm like okay there's a genuine out there cuz this whole like perfect persona that the whole PR industry is an industry design to exploit like the the glitches in human psychology how do you present yourself you always smile you look them in the eyes it's all that whole lot Dale Carnegie what's that book how to influence people out of yeah exactly it's like it's like did it's just trying to try to trick people to like you like if you're a piece of [ __ ] that works to man that's not genuine right but it does work because the second you look when someone in the eye to speak with confidence people believe whatever you say yeah that's how cars get away with it right so I don't I I like the people that will give me the the truth the naked truth and if it hurts my feelings I might be upset for a day or two but I know myself day three I'm always gonna go that's a different you know I prefer those people I think you do too I could be most my thing with the real people perper cuz it's I can't stand that the BS man people are smiling your face oh my like you're my best friend gonna stab you behind her back there's so much of that man you know and I I and when I hear people though they're try to present themselves too perfectly I'm always like are there's something fishy about this yeah you know i I'd rather hear the rotten side of I know the rotten side of a person that's not make me like them less because of it it just shows her their humanity exactly you know and I think that's why things that everybody is so worried about hiding their flaws because they didn't want like oh like I've aired or I've made mistake because I want to be Jesus yeah that's a you know you understand those same thoughts are exactly held by everybody else right so why are you hiding it why are we playing this game but I think it's be had to play the game about well we've all embarrassed ourselves at some point right like give me like for me when I was in school I was terribly shy and just had a your failure in rejection and uh why because when I grow up and I look at my young younger self of me what are you worried about yeah any dude who's you know the man has been rejected by you know tons of girls yeah there's something there's something wrong yeah if you've never been rejected exactly that's no big deal yeah I like when you're young you think it's a huge deal it's just like anybody who would their first love and they get broke broke it harder than yeah all right think I am that's half a Sarah yeah move on you don't want that you want to go through that because it's all those experience that once you go through you're like really happy that happened yeah exactly it's like a vaccine man like you need it you know so it's just a matter of like I'm looking at my younger self I could see all these mistakes that I had or these wrong ideas that I had you know but now that we're older it's still seems that people still have the same ideas like and they're still trapped and not being real yeah yeah I can I can tell you the truth like I try to be as honest as possible because I know whatever I've gone through somebody else has gone through you know they can it's not like oh you've done this horrible thing I mean I haven't murdered anybody like that I haven't any egregious crimes I have nothing to hide you know and I think when you're able to open up that way it makes you a lot more interesting because you can reveal like nobody wants to hear about somebody's all-perfect stories whether they're true or not it gets boring right we do what do people like to hear they like to hear it a rags to riches story right there's all this time because we could see ourselves in some part of that continuum you know I mean whether we're at the bottom or at the top and we can visualize oh that might eat me someday and it might make that riot you know but if you just put the story of a billionaire son becomes a billionaire it's like well nothing really changed right like he started here he ended here it's a very boring yes sir it's not even Merritt all right but if you have someone's a billionaire them because broke and then he goes up you know and I think your stuff going on there's every good biography whether it's in a form of a book or every and his story it has those ups and downs right like you know your bottom of you know the bottom of everything you pick yourself back up and you know and even if it's at the end you don't win I'm still interested yeah because I it's it's a reminder of of our humanity and how flawed we are in your gonna take some some some falls and I always hate those Falls while I'm going through them was like why is this happy [ __ ] oh yeah I'm dramatic i histrionic a big I'm I get pissed off man and then when it's all over it's always like I'm so happy that happened because you do come out a little bit stronger like a little more mature and a bit better and those are the ultimate lessons when I value those things more than anything it's like getting caught in a triangle you're caught in a triangle it's so many times after a while you stop getting caught in the triangle you realize your defense is amazing because you got caught so many times yeah all the different ways there's no I mean look at look at I was just thinking about this is um there's this period in Brazilian music that was very productive it's so you have to understand Brazilian music understand what I'm talking about but it was like you know like it was like the sixties - like the mid 80s it was very for the best music Brazil has ever produced hands-down beautiful music well-written like it's you have to listen when I appreciate it right Brazil was a dictatorship during those years you are not allowed to think you're not allowed to read certain books you are not allowed to like there was no free press there was no it was you know one political party and it was a very brutal dictatorship but it was very very productive in terms of music and literature right and then I go today Brazil's a democratic country it's opened up you have like hundred political parties and there's no repression anymore and the music has gotten to [ __ ] you know sometimes I think if like the hardship of the times is what allowed that creativity to might have Fest itself whereas you know now is like you have all the freedom to write and produce and we end up with the equivalent of you know like I don't know crappy music that everyone agrees is crap but everyone listens to trap rap like that to me it sounds horrible you know but some people maybe they like it I don't know I don't judge but it's not as I can't compare it to you know maybe the u.s. it's similar it's got musics gotten increasingly worse but I always think that it's it's hardship that really brings the best out of us that was my point you know like I agree it's during those moments of of the pain and suffering and struggle and you know in this case political repression that the very best of people come out you know the best that my favorite part of human nature and then when everything is really easy and really soft and really you know almost too comfortable like what really what good comes out of comfort in terms of creation you see really soft and not only that like that when I'm watching people I'm going like I mentally have all these tools on the internet and what people do with it right I think about it like the Internet has like my phone has more information on that although IPERS in the world you know and it's still I look at it's used for gossiping and trolling and just stupid [ __ ] ya know that's just a sad part of human nature right because you are correct that we could literally learn about anything in the world and become experts and probably multiple fields that we really endeavour to do so but most people are spending their time looking through the Facebook feeds an Instagram picture I do too I'm guilty like I'm not I'm not pointing here's I'm part of the problem it's just like I'm just point out like the shitty aspect of human nature yeah right we could be doing amazing things with her with our minds and instead we get sucked at it like stupid trolling and arguments and what else I think that in itself is kind of showing how good life is where you don't really need to prioritize and building new skills or whatnot because things are going well already know right like if I could get well I would guarantee for myself at least say if I was destitute and broke and fighting for survival I wouldn't be looking at my Instagram feed and you know like oh what's his yeah right I'm like I gotta bust my ass and try to half make something happen you know so I mean in one side that is good we have like maybe these first of all problems right there firstworldproblems and they're breathing like idiot idiot uh see like it's it's just making us worse I feel because it's it's make us submit a soft and unfortunately it's very hard for people to challenge themselves when they're already doing well now it's one of the trickiest things to do is to be able to push the envelope on your own I mean that's why we have coaches right now I think by himself just training on his own I only get so far and however far he can get in his own even if he's super determined and and you know disciplined a coach is really gonna further yeah just because the coach can push where he cannot see but uh we have to be able to I think that's why it's important to have mentors and to have coaches in everything that you do because I agree whatever you're doing okay I think I'm doing good but I can push you a little bit more and you can get a lot more performance out of it and there's also accountability right whereas like if I'm gonna get on my own nobody's walking looking over my shoulder okay stop anything I can relax a little bit I mean let me pull up the Facebook for a minute break but like if you had somewhere over your shoulder whole time like well I can for us someone you respect and you want to impress yes um what we're trying to trying to like make proud exactly it's just like if you are gonna be grappling and you imagine you have like picks and Gracie watching you you know you're not gonna be goofing around at that point yeah okay let me show the masterly I heard they deserve his respect or whatnot you know I want to impress him or whatever the case is that type of pressure is that I thought what I would consider a positive pressure and whenever you could have that he's gonna force you to be better is it stressful yeah it's a it can be stressed but stress isn't necessarily mean bad right stress it's just you know it's pressure you can use that to create good or it could be used to break yourself down it's depending on how you're able to write yeah you know so that's why I think doing sports in particular for martial arts is such a good tool for anybody because it's very easy stress management skills there's nothing more stressful than someone trying to kill you all right later all right well and if you can handle that type of a stressful situation and come out smiling everything else is a joke yeah that's why I always felt like once I started doing high school wrestling and to me that was the hardest thing is what I'm just looking at a book and it does make everything seem yes whatever good I was deprived of food and eating your mouth nourished and forced to cut weight and coach yelling Indian summer try throwing like what I am struggling with a book the book into [ __ ] you know I could be put everything perspective I guess I went from like in high school I was just good yeah like okay student and then when I went to college I just used the same mindset that I had for competition yeah I was a magna [ __ ] laude at top of my class wrestling is a really good school for life I agree yeah but that applies to any hard sport like I think trying to introduce to a martial arts you gonna get you just commercialize so if you did if you ran it like that for you my kids program you lose other students you got to water it down a little bit because the truth is most children can't handle that even wrestling that they're selected like you there's a process you know you're gonna get really tough ones and then you push that threshold and then someone some of them probably fall through eventually they can't keep up but it's I think it really does prepare you for you know that that's what hard training I believe the children should you go through that every now and then just a really tough and I'm up and give it a reality check it like a man and it's okay if you break yeah as long as you are they're gonna be broken we've been right we're way to soften children I mean I might be daughters I try to you know I pushed him not as much as you know my grandpa would have liked but yeah you know kids gotta be pushed but going back to your point Dave like you know everyone say this it's cliche to say but pressure creates diamonds yeah the lotus flower is born in the mud you know and that's I think these are all symbolic of you know of our own or ourselves and how we grow in how we develop absolutely so like if you feel like you're overstressed and you should just take pause and pull up of paper right now everything is bothering you what's going on are you suggested in write a novel day for the next 15 weeks of my life writing [ __ ] down stressing you out and a lot of times like people slow these in their head right like you have things that are stressing you when people are like I got this and that that but you're never able to quantify it you're not making it real it's kind of in the ether yeah as long as it sits in this little brain cloud or yours like you can't really get ahold of it yeah and so it could appear larger than it is yeah right all right just overwhelming say okay you know what this is put it down make it real okay what I have this car payment that I'm laying on or I'm having this problem here whatever you're wrong you gotta stop take a deep breath and I agree with you because like some of the chaos latest builds on itself and doesn't help you gotta like you guys step back let's reset and let's see what exactly I have to do that's urgent and what's not because a lot of times what's urgent gets all mixed up with what's not yeah that's a lot what happens to me like I end up like spend a lot of time I'm sure that's meaningless and or give them the same amount of time with the stuff that's really important so creating a hierarchy of relevances is very helpful exactly and I feel like once you're able to put all that down then you know okay you know what maybe this is and you said what's a high priority item here actually it's this guy yeah this is the one that I need to stop it's kind of like a beer thing of the human body and you have a broken finger but you're bleeding out here and you're trying to fix a finger like this wait yeah that's it sometimes this could be a lot more distracting to you yeah because maybe I'm internally bleeding but I can see this so like this is really I could fall half of these advice I'd be fine they're like I probably go back to my default setting which is like four I do everything at a time anyway Dave I gotta get going man what a pleasure I had a lot of fun all right team huh you know train jujitsu stay healthy eat healthy sleep well away with people with with a with a cold about that virus Stacy I saw one of those masks pretty soon I think it's overblown I hope it is but I do freak out about that stuff Oh correction if I was in China I would be really yeah but other than that I don't think it's as big as the deals I think in the u.s. you have 35 cases out of a lot of people man oh hello for like 300 million people it's I know very small amount and I know because I have a camp Boylan Thailand and some people are concerned they go because you know but Thailand also has 35 cases and the 35 cases I came in were from a bus that came from China with Chinese tourists they stopped the bus quarantine them and there hasn't been a new case since okay so again there's a lot of alarm and I understand this care but when you look at the numbers like I went to the CDC website and they went I forgot the other one media likes had they liked it that's how they live the media they live through headlines with our headlines they don't have a business yeah blonde long story short right so it gets blown out of proportion everybody's virus I can't fight a fire us man I gotta fight smog almost any other item fight animals man I can fight bills I can fight you know like a recession a depression I could fight these things a virus I can you know anyway guys I'm we're out of here and we'll see you again next week I hope you guys enjoy it and yeah [Music]