BTG 32 - Alberto Crane

[Music] hey guys what's going on this is David Avalon with raking the guard with my co-host Robert Drysdale and a very special guest Alberto crane Alberto welcome to the show thank you thank you Robert big pleasure a big honor exciting they may think you for being auditor we're really excited to talk to you man like I feel like I've known in Roberto Frank since I've been since I was like maybe like a blue belt and we've never spent a lot of time together like I've always I've always liked senior tournaments in Brazil tournaments in the u.s. like we go way back but yeah I'm I'm excited to have you on our on our podcast here where we're gonna pick your brain and you know find out like what's kept you going in jujitsu all these years the good and the bad you know and yeah that's that's that's the nature of it is pockets we try to get to like the bottom of things like what is it that keeps you going and what is it you love not just on the sheriff yeah not a superficial level or like at the bottom of everything like why did you keep coming back and thank you but I know you've gone through I mean you're an OG you've been around for a long time not just in jiu-jitsu and MMA and I know you've gone through medical issues as well which most people might have just stopped right there and you've only seem to have perseverative and become better for it so I don't know you could share a little bit about your your back story for sure for sure you know you know went back and I'll start you know mid 90s you know I fell in love with 94 I studied it too and then I found love with it and and and I'm moving to resolved like and I pursued to try to be one of the best and and you know and then just kept at it you don't get that as I read a book called Think and Grow Rich you know find a coin deal and I said to my blueprint job and you know the mastermind principle and I knew where I had to go and that was Brazil become one of the best you know in my in my mind you know so that's what I did I moved to Brazil and journey that I yeah I think I know I just interrupted you like I think I lost the sound I thought you went silent my bad okay okay we're gonna say something yeah I was just gonna ask you like but I didn't realize you how you had to finish because I thought they went silent so I interrupted you accidentally yeah I know basically everything everything everything everything like any success I've had is because of that time in Brazil you know in my pursuit to become the best you know every every success every heartache every any any difficult I've ever had and any success I've had is because of those those those times in Brazil you know so I'm forever grateful you know and and I you know I do Jiu Jitsu but for me it's always gonna be Brazilian Jujitsu you know just because of the culture and and what is the for me not super so you know just even even like the culture looks like very warm and the connections I have with my friends still to this day you know for most times it's never gonna go away for me you know it's something that Robert has said a lot to I mean myself I've only been to Brazil once and it was a really short not great experience okay they flew me in like that I read the fight signed you in the first match and I know that you know Robert always talked about the difference in as far as the Brazilian culture you know and so yeah and both of you are Americans you know Robert you know half a million but it maybe you can share a little bit more on that like to people like me who are not like really immersed in the Brazilian culture like what makes it so unique I mean for me you know as I was 18 you know when I first went down there and you you know raised by a single mom a dad do you think I did for sure I was like missing you singing a part of that and it just kind of filled in the gaps in filter and filled in things maybe that I was lacking you know from maybe my childhood or just as a person you know and just the the human connection that i that i received from everybody in the the deep bonds you know i mean most of my really close friends they're there from that time you know like 25 years right 25 years and I'm you know I have this friend still today like they're really close so that's something you know that's specially know so so I really I really take it I take I hold it dear to my heart and it's my motivation for sure you know one of my motivations that's pretty great first of all takes a lot of courage you leave a country where you're from and going to a strange country when you're 18 I'm assuming you speak Portuguese at the time I know these people Portuguese now but at the time you did and so kudos for that man like legit commitment I think a lot of people make satellite when you want some rights you have to pay and you clearly write it but let me ask you this why did you choose can you an ability look I mean as your eyes right now remeasured eyes has never been a hub for jujitsu birth or some talent there but it's always been real my mouse and then later some Palo kind a little bit like you choose manage and ice and why did you choose the knuckle that's a great that's a great question you know so I might chuckle you know when I went to Rio Janeiro first went from from New Mexico I moved to Rio de Janeiro went to Baja this is Yuka and like I was Gracie ball is like first American black belt and so I went there and I met him and I just loved his uh just his personality and how he was and then I went to go visit his school when he was beginning just beginning it was like white belt and white belts and blue belts yeah and just the culture in the school was just it just resonated with me you know and I was like this is where I want to go you know because it you know the grace of Allah and Rio de Janeiro it was like you know like the who's who was there like all out and there's probably like five six world champions at a time on the on the mat training you know but but for the reason the the the guys that I did I connected with he knows that I was a wipeout blue belt at that time you know so so it just it just kind of residue I mean I I've always gone gone on my instincts you know in my instinct told me to move there you know I felt like I was going to get a lot more from that experience than maybe being even being in the and they're in the readers Rio de Janeiro at the greasy Baja and it turned out to be you know because I got like you know personal attention and I felt like I was part of the team you know in readers Janeiro there's a lot of foreigners right coming in and out right but in Belarus onsh there weren't obviously that many foreigners so I really felt like a part of the team and that was a part of my like just assimilate she knew into the culture you know being a Bella Rosanna cuz like I said there weren't that many foreigners there but it resonated with me just to answer your question you know just the culture and the way draculina was as a person and his his professionalism and just technique and just how he was as a person and and turned out to be a good call you know because I mean look at look at all the black but the world champions that came out of there you know one school one school you know I mean I mean sama Braga Baja I mean those are lady even lady generations Eric bad delay I mean there's just so many so many know so many guys you know they have come come out of there you know over the years you know so it is really the right choice you know it was really the right choice and I really excelled there I really excelled there and you know we got to beat a lot of the you know as a black belt he put the burden you know the Brazil air day keeps you know in 2002 like we even got to beat Allianz as a lightweight team you know we were like the first lightweight team to ever beat to win a browser to keeps you know at you know at the black belt level lightweight you know first time ever you know sorry a team outside of outside of Rio de Janeiro so that was pretty cool you know and you know Leo Vieira all those guys were on that team at that time so it was cool you know like we were legit you know I'm very proud not to be a part of that that lineage and legacy know that's the me amazing story I know like dry cooling like I I want very observant of this stuff like I've always draculina was one of the best jujitsu coaches of all time because I know all these names I grew up like watching him I know who they are yeah punishments if she doesn't get them maybe he doesn't get the credit he deserves I like you have to put him at the top five like there's sure he goes like well Julius Caesar you know dracool II know like remove these guys and then like you did too many good out there but he definitely belongs in the top five top ten of the greatest attention coaches of all time in my opinion for sure I mean little if you want to look at numbers okay who's put out more black world champions than than him the one guy you know one guy like a lot of a lot of schools right they have like multiple like you know multiple influences you know but from one school like I mean yeah ha Jolla was he's amazing right from the north but let's count how many guys you know we know I mean I don't even know how many black world will champions really all the way from blue to black so I mean you have to yeah I think you have to and I think just because he's always been like talk about his character and his integrity he's always stayed loyal to Carlos Gracie jr. and so I think maybe it isn't he's a guy hasn't gotten like the recognition per se you know because of that I don't know I don't know but it doesn't matter you know I benefited from it and a lot of others it's all good but I mean look at Lucas Valente you know and you got the you know you got the silver medal at the World Championships this year you know how many generations is that and he's there with in Texas with truck we know you know I q100 against Lucas I know right zero zero like you know I mean the best part passer right in the game and he passes card I mean honest I've never seen anybody pass his guard seemed see nobody passes kids guard but but you know if they keep coming you know they keep coming you know and that's all like you know the grace of law and guys really the lineage it's all from like chuckling no and then holla all right when he was still part so let me ask you this and like whenever you see someone who's like who has a there a coach that's produced so many champions and churning them out there's always a formula right because they're able to put talent in and it out comes a champ so if I was asked what do you think is like the the formula or the secret sauce so to speak that draculina was doing that perhaps maybe other people are not doing man I just did a podcast with actually with Lucas Valenti today I was it today yesterday you know and we were talking about that and it's not even like the world champion black belts were like man there's like attorneys and and and and and it's just he he is example right he'd like trans hard he pushes us and like it just brings everybody up you know there's guys that are well world champions but they're like super super they're like world class guys you know attorneys and you know their attorneys that have other responsibilities right but they're like super there's another super high level and so I think it's just the culture that's in the school you know just everybody gets treated the same you know just the the it's like his character again you know you're just pushing pushing everybody and just his example you know he was like a world-class competitor himself and then and then you know I just kind of put that into us you know we're all he was pretty young when he started the gym you know and bellerose arched by himself and you know he put his heart and soul into us you know and it's it's it's amazing you know it's really it's amazing you know like run these group chats right and the guys are still super interconnected right after all these years 25 years you know 25 years it's not about the money it's like it's like it's like a deep connection and respect you know because he's always he's always been there for us he always does the right thing like you know just he's such a great role model an example I think that's a good point you bring because you even talk about you choosing to go there to hit us it wasn't because they have all these world champions or all these black belts you use really stress the importance of the character and like the values of the gym and that's time that a lot of people come learn from because you know you might be in the Midwest or something and you don't have access to the high level talent but that's not necessarily the most important thing I mean we can look at social media and we could find plenty of scumbag black belts you know yeah even though they might be well accomplished there they lack character you know and we could I think we could all say that there's one thing that we want to take away from the martial arts is the the virtues of like you said like character honor integrity and not so much like I can have like X amount of trophies behind me in the wall yeah yeah you know like he was he was and he became an attorney right and then he chose the jiu-jitsu the jiu-jitsu path right instead he could have chosen to be an identity come an attorney but he chose the jiu-jitsu path instead and so he was always like you know back in those days it was kind of like the fight like Fight Club days in a lot of ways you know and he was always a professional always like a super clingy I was presented himself as a professional and I just like I said he's happy again to is such a great role model to to want to be look like right and so all of us really all of us like we're all like the lineage kind of keeps going you know people having successful schools and you know having good students but you know also running a professional school you know for for the community you know doing positive work in the community and I think I think more than anything you know and of course it's it's great to have like black world champions and all these things you know but man like just doing good work and the community solid work you know really changing people's lives and helping people be their best you know man he he I mean that's what it's all about and then all the other things is kind of fell in place you know because of the right timing you know like like Robert was saying you know but Rio de Janeiro son Paulo later on we're like you know we're all like Hobbes you know but better is on she was didn't really have it until come and he went there right and so it was like the perfect the perfect storm to kind of you know kind of create all this talent in that city on a sidenote did you know that Belo Horizonte was the first place where Carlos Gracie talked to Jason you know I've seen that yeah I've seen that for the police right the civil civil pleases to view yeah so 28 before so for real but let me ask you this a few immersion why he I he is I mean he's a good coach right so there's the right thing she cares about us he's always there for us obviously he has a lot to offer in terms of development of athletes you know the facts are there to prove it my question you is like the why that I want to get you is what is about his mind and personality that give them that edge because it's not easy if it were easy everyone would do it right like there's a number of things play here like so many things have to align for you to be that level of a coach and it has to be I mean if his said in personality right that's what I'm going with this yeah yeah you know he's like he's like a super lightweight guy right you know he's a plumber to him a pen pen a pen awaits right so featherweight and and and he can put us all in our place you know with the way he speaks though he's personality and you know somebody's doing something wrong put him in their place you know like right away and you know people listen you know and so that's a leadership quality right and he's always fair you know I'm just kind of going back to the integrity again you know just he's always fair and he does like the right thing you know no and nobody's perfect right but I mean that's like year after year after year even no matter what you know like he's still no matter what team if we're part of grace law or not did I still he's still there for us you know for his black belts because it's not about that you know it's about like the relationship and and you know the things that we went through together you know so you know I think if you have to say one it's his personality and the way the way he is you know the way he is so of course I get all that but his personality right being able to put us in our place with the way he he speaks really well he the way he communicates you know he's you know he's able to communicate really efficiently right teaching and then also putting us in our place right which we needed right which we need yes about the you mentioned that you know he puts people in his place and so he has like that sort of obviously a very vocal person or he has the kind of characteristics of a leader is my right yeah but at the same time he is very very loyal to Carlos Gracie jr. he has been over the years and a moment were grace box at this big question mark in the BJJ world because they've gone a route that is unusual but it's what works for every business on the planet so are they right or there's a conflict of the BJJ business side of the BJJ culture that we cherish so much and I feel Gracie ba has always sit on the crossroads of those two things and and but drama colino has stayed loyal over the earth he's like one of the few guys from the old Bordeaux left AHA Jala left edge upon the left Roger left hand left Kiera left so many members of what was the biggest team in the world left and drunk you know might be the last of the mohicans up there old school Gracie bad guys that is sure for sure why is that yeah I character you know he's like a samurai straight up you know he's like loyal he's there and he you know he's example right is an example to us and so you know even when I I'm not part of the Greece of also see anymore but he even told me straight up like you know I think it's better for you to to not be too but not be a part of it you know so I was like okay it sounds good you know and I told my wife and yeah it was great it was good but I was you know as soon as he gave me his blessing pretty much okay I was good with that you know but it's an example to make you know you lead by you copy right you copy your teaching pop of your professor so why is even boil its character its character he's like a samurai you know it's that's that's part of who he is I've had the privilege of going to your school several times and training there and teaching and stuff and I've always had a great time and yeah I would have to say that lineage is obviously past well because you're super awesome and all your students and coaches that I've always would work with it as very humble and and very easy to work with and I know you've had a lot of success with your gym and and the smoothie bar is amazing to brahbrah I brought baby sucrose to - to Los Angeles to the bank so I mean doctors a little bit about that because I know as a competitor and maybe we should talk first about that because we haven't talked about you yet you know but I know you you've done really well jiu-jitsu I I know you from MMA first when you're fighting in king of the cage so I think when I started getting into this and eight late 90s and stuff you were the champ of king of the cage so like when did you make that switch yeah when you went from I guess from Brazilian jiu-jitsu into going to MMA you know so like in 2000 q like I closed the bracket a black belt and so I guess in my miles yeah you know because I beat the that beat the guy that I had to beat and we close the brackets you know but that was like my bowl you know but we close the bracket and later on it's sighs it's not it sounded like that whoever gets that first place is like the world champ right so I probably would have kept going if that was if thousand case around that time king of the cage came to New Mexico and so I wanted to once I got my black belt I wanted to you know let's just test it out and see if this stuff works you know in the cage and so because they're coming in king of the cage back then was a big deal right there were meeting with UFC you know hold on one second and so they're competing with the ERC and yeah so that the fact that they came to New Mexico I was living in New Mexico at the time [Music] against UNIVAC so design that I was able to I was able to get on the card right and I did one five two fights and then because I sold so many tickets you know the first five for example I went and you know I was always like you know I'll sling a little bit you know but I was able to was getting a commission off of off the tickets you know but I was getting paid like what 300 bucks or something right and so I waited and I bought you know like 10,000 bucks worth of tickets and then I sold them all out of my gym because it was the first time I actually competed him in New Mexico so you know really supported me and and then they're like okay like said of me being like one of the maybe under cards you know they like okay like they want to make me like pretty much like the main event after that I cast ever in and these guys these guys were on the card and so then October came around and yeah they didn't even do it because I didn't fight on the card I was because they they didn't you know they don't want payment for two bucks and so they're like we give you it will give you a title shot to fight like Javier Vasquez cuz their first time Javier Vasquez came to New Mexico he had the belt on he had just beaten Rumi no sato who was the first lightweight like superstar right yeah series kind of you know he's kind of like he was like Hannes Horace and and he kind of acted stuck up you know towards me and so you know I'd committed to you know to being the best and and all allow for so many years you know and so I felt like super insulted you know cuz I'm always really nice you know but then when somebody acts like kind of like you know cocky with you right you know the wrong way you know so the match I can do that and so that I could listen will give you a title shot for the king of cage if you do this next fight we can't pay you anymore but we'll give you the title shot I was like sounds good you know and so that's how like the that pay-per-view is a big pay-per-view and he was like very he's very high up on the you know on the list you know he he was about to fight in the UFC which it was a big big deal back in those days they only had like maybe five cards you know throughout the year so and he was he was really like kind of full of himself at that time you know and I mean he was on the up-and-up you know he's like considered top ten and all that in the rankings you know for the weight you know so anyway went in there and he was you know I had a really good team you know I like Greg Jackson and Mike Winkeljohn I'm Mike Horner and of course I had like the Hall of New Mexico behind me you know my school in Santa Fe and you know all the Jackson people too in Albuquerque so it was like everybody was like chanting my name and there's this cool man is cool in it we know what to the went the distance and yeah had a lot of things in my favor for sure considering that it was only my like 35 you know but it kind of got took me on the map you know as far as in MMA even though it was only my third fight you know and I was just straight up straight up jiu-jitsu guy with with big balls you know China like half guard sweeps and I did like and he was a grappler and he was a grab at the end of the day so you know and when [ __ ] hits the fan you know like you do what you do you know what you do should do to best you know and so he grabbed me no I just do big head kicks I didn't know how to strike or anything and he just you know you clinch with me right and it became a grappling match so and then I I thought I was just a little better you know I mean I was I was at the top of the top of my game at that time you know so that it got me on the map you know and then the UFC of course wanted me to fight and then I took a hiatus you know for two and a half years because they got the division the lightweight division right and and so I was like you know I just focused on my school and so I you know started studying you know like from a necrotic eyes and you know the guys are doing good business things because you know I thought everything into like being the best but it doesn't pay the bills you know you come back from the tournaments and you're like starving you know and you know one of the it was actually the ATCC trois that your brother won in outside of Vancouver right it was like that tournament were you know I got I'll actually lost a haha SEOs after that you know when the finals like you know it was like they wanted like I don't know 20 minutes or 2:30 or whatever was you know and it's like you know the 0-0 I don't know you know what I went you know anyway it didn't matter to like the mat that the thing was I gonna put everything into being the best I could down to 145 and all that and then like you come back and doesn't mean anything like you're starving you know and it's like what am i doing you know and I say I sit up like all night talking with my you know Moe Easton one of my best friends he's like my big brother that actually took me down to Brazil when I was you know I was a kid and we talked about creating systems you know and I started reading like the e-myth the e-myth and just different things and so I you know I got with I kind of use the same format you know I like I told you I I read Think and Grow Rich when I was like 18 and I used that as my blueprint to go to Brazil and try to become the best and so that I just kind of did the same formula you know to try to create a good business because there was nobody to be mentored from and jiu-jitsu community the only guys were the karate guys right that we're doing good business yeah even larger Irving even Lord Irving was there right at that seminar that I took it was like Skyy Stephen Oliver I remember though it was ik want to everest ones I did there was that yeah that's it and he they there was like the fat guys and in the front Lerner Lord wasn't fat right but the fact got in fact karate guys in the front and he said they're like who's done five thousand hours of technical training and you know everybody raised their hand right who's done five five thousand hours of marketing and sales and the fat guy only the fat guy karate guys I just began to study you know and start to study and not start to learn and try to become better and and then I'm like The Ultimate Fighter came out and I remember Lori gave me like a 30-day 30-day if you know like commercial and I got it on on the on the you know so I started you know implementing stuff in the school so I started doing doing really well you know I copied a lot of the these formulas you know and and then I even quit started a second school and I did I used the 30 day free like I did a 30-second commercial during the alternate fogger and it was super cheap because they didn't know what was gonna happen so I got a super cheap and so I blew up my second school but you know I just started studying and implementing and doing you know one thing is to study but another thing is to actually do it you know so just to [ __ ] up on the wall right and remember why you know that's why I you know I knew I was gonna have I was going to move to LA eventually you know and so he kind of kind of built up the business as well as well you know so I could you know I could maybe get some money to start and start a new life in Los Angeles because money's a little bit different here than New Mexico that's a lot more expensive anyway you know I was I did good and you know I was grateful because I got to I got I learned a lot you know in the process you know and of course I was doing other things but you know it's like it's like the same formula right it's the same just like the same the same thing the same mindset the same the same things you know it's just doing it you know like going to Brazil like just pulling the trigger and actually doing it right not talking about it but actually doing it like lying around buy my plane ticket like sewing sewing everything I have and actually going going in and so you know same thing with with the business same things with like investing and making making moves to you know it's to not just have to rely on the school business itself right to set you up because that'll you know for me like jitters everything you know no matter what I do like she just is always going to be number one because what it's done for me and I wanna always wanna be connected and and you know I want to be like truck you know like my my professor you know and be on the math and really care and be connected with all the students you know it's always going to be very very important to me for my happiness you know and peace of mind you know I was gonna ask you Alberto also I know you're very passionate about this fitness train that you're doing which is taxing and tell me a little bit bit and Robert journey why did you get to charge yeah so so yeah yeah thank you thank you so you know you know so I gotta 3fc right and lost my first fight and then you know my first jiu-jitsu coach II was like a Navy SEAL he actually got in touch with the creator of that tactic system and he's like would you would you could you help Alberto for the his next fight you know his strength ambition thing and I said sure he was like a fan actually cuz he was a grappler himself and so then he we did a whole protocol and it was like super smart you know I wasn't really ready for it you know cuz it was a very very different kind of movements and things like that but one of the things that really really stuck with me is I got thrown on my head this is probably like 2007 you know and instead of you know I'm gonna take it was really really bad you know I got like I think like sue played and like it's just like my neck was it was jacked you know and anytime you touch my head you know and not if I come enough right it was just the doozers be unbearable and whether you know everybody takes like and you can't rest really but you know it takes like you know like a month or who knows you know long you know - really and then it never really heals right and so I told him and he's like man do these movements you know did his movements and I did them and it was like every time you have a paint you have pain just do the movements always staying out of just show me these movements and then I was able to hear myself within like a week you know and I was back 100% and that was like that one thing that I never forgot and I was like what I could hit myself with because you usually have to take like pain pills right and then just like give the rest and you know the same you know you know nobody nobody shows us like the right things you know and I was like what I can hear myself with movement and you know on breath and you know these you know actually natural stuff right and so anyway it's something that I never never forgot you know and so fast forward mm you know mm whatever 10th to that I get that and it was a five years of five years later I get I get every five years I make a dude that brain MRI that went in and they said you know hey ya bunch of lesions in the brain and they found like a small one when I first got a few if see but they let me fight and I don't think anything about like okay sure and then we fight but five years later these lesions are pretty big you know and like hey we can't let you fight like you do more testing and it took about you know about 3-4 months or not to do them and and they say sorry you have multiple sclerosis you know and everybody treating me like you know like like my life's over you know like my life's over they gave me a stack of drug books let me know what you want to take you know and then you start to look it up and there you see people in a wheelchair and you know like kind of craziness you know like my life's basically over like everything I've I love to do everything that I'm about like I cannot do it anymore I'm gonna be a [ __ ] I'm going to have to somebody's gonna have to take care of me like everything I'm not you know somebody's gonna have to take care of me and so you know I was like and I still did you Jitsu and he said he said yes you know and so I registered for a tournament and I went on a world tour I was like what if I can't do it in six months and I registered for every single tournament I went on a world tour you know I went all over the world every place I went like to Europe and we even went into the Amazon I went to Asia you know all over the country you know I get everything you know the way absolutes you know and for about three and a half years and like the combination was I had like an OD world and Eduardo tells foods and he was always a heavier weight you know I just want like the nogi world before that so my mind has a conscience legit this is like a real world championship it was like a messy you know and he was on the opposite side of the bracket you know and then we won the first day and then we ended up meeting up and then the finals you know and it was really cool you know I got to win and there was a met a lot for me he was on the cover that sheets magazine so I did both it up like was legit you know and and then I told my friend that I would do a seminar with him in Spain you know a few weeks after that you know because he actually came up for that tournament and so there was a couple tournaments while that during that that the week of the seminar so I you know I went to I went there's one in Berlin and one in Madrid Spain so that was unripe right after the the seminar explained and some seminars and went to Walters gym you know you know Walter right Robert in Stockholm Sweden yeah and so then I went to then I want to you know to more baya and the south of Spain and then my last stop was Madrid and so I I wasn't feeling good like the night before I couldn't really eat you know and I thought maybe I was just tired from all the stress because I was my third week competing in a real ray and and and so then you know I was okay whatever I couldn't eat and then the next morning I still didn't feel good and you know I couldn't eat anything and then I talked to my first opponent and we're cool and then you know we have to compete and I started my move you know and then he's way to kind of dropped on my stuff make and I was like oh man I'm gonna throw up you know and I survived the match and I you know we made it to the end but I didn't throw up and as soon as the match was over it was a bracket of three people right and soon as the match was over like I threw up you know like you know at food poisoning basically that food poisoning sauce is like I was like a ghost you know and then I had one more match because I didn't get DQ'd so it would've been out of the bracket so they're like you want to go I was like let's go you know and I went and I was trying to win when they wants to want to watch the video but I ended up getting choked out and I had never been choked out ever in training or you know for whatever reason you know training or and in the match or anything and I got show I got choked to sleep you know and I woke up and I was super like bummed out you know super like defeated like mentally and everything and then the guy that I compute against first he's like hey you're gonna do the openweight and like nah man you know like I'm just I was you know feel good right I could eat I can drink and it just felt like I no strength at all and so then we he's like just put your name down maybe feel better a couple hours was like okay I thought about is like okay you're right so I put my name down what am I gonna do stay at the hotel room and feel sorry for myself or maybe I will feel better in a couple hours you know and I didn't it's you know but I started till I sat down and I waited you know and I started to kind of think like I really believe my technique and I started like a mantra in my head I believe my technique I believe my technique like kind of like like I started obsessing on it you know and I started to better and better you know like so good at least you know not so bad and I did that for like a couple hours you know and then I went in I want my first match and like I was feeling terrible like a stray animal you know it was open way you know there's there's a couple of big guys in there you know and and then had another match and had like three matches you know and they're winning the whole thing you know and it doesn't it was just like a little tournament right at Madrid Madrid Open I BGF but because I did that with with like with nothing in me I was like it just showed me like the capability of the mind what we're capable of well we're capable I had no strength and nothing in me had nothing in me it was just my mindset and like me saying the same things over had it was my mind like my thoughts you know that was my daugh only fuel I have and it was enough you know it was enough and it got me through it and I even did a couple more matches in the nogi you know and and often that was like probably one of the highlights it's not the highlight of my career man in town you know because it just it just showed me what what we're capable of one of what I'm capable of and it was like in my subconscious like I got this I got this multiple sclerosis thing I got it you know and then I conscious took me to the tax but certification maybe like three four months later and I started on that and so that going back to the disco sauna and the guy who helped me from a UFC fight back and those back back and that healed my neck and I did the first time in okay I get a second chance to really do the I started doing all the workshops and everything I can do you know and I started to feel better and you know I started to dream again all the injuries that I had you know man I was in such bad shape at our time I could compete right but afterwards man I had our time walking and even talking you know and and it was like almost impossible to my seatbelt on I was just so like it's so much pain you know I was taking ibuprofen every single day my wife you know she's like no and I've been doing that since forever for years on you years and years you know and once I did that certification I stopped taking the ibuprofen and a little bit a little like my injury started to feel bad you know and and and and I hadn't ran for like ten years I started dreaming again things started to heal and so that's I I knew this is good for me and I was trained there like hardcore like these certifications and the workshops and stuff and I started to feel better from the inside out and I started to heal myself you know and I just I kept at it you know I kept that and I kept I got basically like another like world where I went to every single certification workshop around the world like Europe I went to Brazil even it's in Central America like I went everywhere you know every single place all around the country and I started to get better and better and better you know and it kind of gave me like my life back basically uh I was just like and so like a couple years ago they did the things kind of fell apart you know like the guy was there was a tiger that I was falling around in a circle you know like the business stuff and they never really had it together anyway you know but they start kind of falling apart and and so I was trying to give my best to kind of keep it together you know like giving a hey I'm interested in you know being apart or out the thing with whatever I can you know but there's a lot of egos and things like that and then I trained for I was like okay so I put my head down and I trained for this like their level - it's like a team leader thing there's like a YouTube video like your Google tactic team leader Alberto crane it'll come up and kind of tell my story a bit but it was like kind of mission impossible with all the injuries I've had like my elbows and shoulders and wrists and everything to kind of push like all that weights you know but I just I just followed like the system all of all the all the principles and everything and and followed it you know and put my foot on the gas pedal and I went for you know and I just again like man I can do this you know I can win you know it was kind of like another another step you know that I got this you know like the best is yet to come set in my life being over like the best is yet to come and so then I was like I started tired tried to do everything right you know I respect everybody that's helped me and I I kind of all I got involved this one even now with the TAC fit and I'm working I'm getting up like 3:00 in the morning and I work my work my butt off you know on top of my legacy duties you know and my family duties in the way I've lived through kids so I do my best and but it's it's a lot of me do like Tina Kennard up all the time so I mean so like I just want to give back what it's given me know it's just given me so much and everybody that's who've been doing it now for the last four years you've done you've done a class right David legacy so you know I want to see you growing it's like the perfect thing and now especially with this foreign team right it's like the perfect they really is the perfect thing you know it's all the components you clean the components up you know you clean your movement right you clean the movement quality you break everything down it's just there his brain like Scott's on his brain you know he's studied everything that he's put into it you know like your breath with the movement the correct structure the neuroscience just all the you know the work they put into it that's all there for you to be your best you know and he was a grapplers of course very like a lot I like jujitsu graphing it was but it's like the technique in the level it's like it's lovely and I keep going down there you know that you you just keep going if you want to you know but even like basic things will like change your game make you better just practitioner even if you're not its practitioner it's like the same thing you know the the the structure structure right just makes you a better human you know so so yeah I'm super grateful to kind of be able to do this work you know on top of the Utsu like it's just number one dude it's number one it's me it's giving me the mindset you know to be able to do this attack was tough but tackle it was the right it was the right tools it was the right you know knowledge right that I needed you know I think everybody needs it you know like nobody showed us like how to heal ourselves like mr. Miyagi not just a martial artists like they have like learning healing and recovery things but nobody taught us these things right and so so it has all that in there so it really makes your complete martial artist so yeah and really grateful that I have gifts to my toolbox now to to help my students and to help all this help my friends you know a lot of my black friends like they're not they're not doing good you know they can't really train anymore even you know a lot of people I mean guys and they're even like 30 years old or 35 like and they're doing you know things like that you know I mean it's like the Statue of you know have to be like that right I need help getting off at you I know you're making this up like I used my arms because my knees are you know we moved like change the oil and you're eating your knees you know and get your because it's your brain right like your brain remembers like traumas and different things that you did to be used yourself and also pulling yourself in the opposite direction what we did like you know we do the same things over and over and over people take steroids and whatever else they kind of keep healthy but man it's not it's like knowledge is what we need knows what we need and so like I love jiu-jitsu man I love what it does read what's the tool you know for you reach you to free to be your best but it needs tag for - it needs tackler - you know you need those two things you know and then you know especially going back to the court team it's like the perfect thing you know how people do you know to improve their Jitsu solo wise you know but it's like a martial art with yourself you know in the battle is staying within that six to eighty percent your heart maxes that's where the magic happens right because you need stress not too much stress and keeping your breath with correct structure and the movement you know so it sounds like kind of simple but it's you know you can go down the route girl just takes off like it's a skill but in that process man you really really get strong get healthy you really can live your best life because man I want to do Jiu Jitsu till till I die I want to become a man I want to be doing stuff till the end you know and I all my students all my friends to all have that same thing you know and so yeah tak tacular for me it's before it so that it's done so much for me personally because I held these neurological you know things right going on with the MS like multiple sclerosis right like the massive that your immune system attacks your myelin which is that the sheath around your nerve right so you can't get disconnected right in your body so you become numb and like different things gonna happen you know like neurological things where you just don't work right you're the like I said I could have walked really well and even speaking and talking and thinking you know I couldn't read really I couldn't study anymore I used to read a lot when I was in my early 20s yeah yeah when I was younger and I couldn't comprehend you know but I'm back I'm back you know and not even that but like my physique has changed no like I'm just I'm just up graded myself you know it was all through that team leader training you know I'm just like your body adapts to what you do right and it's just all the right stuff you move in all the different directions you know like jiu-jitsu you do right but you know have somebody else trying to China you know take you out right right it's like the you got to control yourself you know but this it's only you versus yourself so it's amazing you know what it's what everybody needs you know it was what everybody needs as part of their training I just want to go back to one thing you said oh man who said I wanted to give back to jujitsu and I hear this from Sony but I feel the same way right I feel like so many people in the community or martial artists in general they have that same feeling of like looking back and going acknowledging everything the sport has done right so you feel like a sense of a debt towards a sport I guess because you just done so much fun where it's you know you from what you listen to you speak you saw like getting a really good moment in your life you seem really happy and positive about your journey which is a main but has there ever been a moment you went like I am done with jiu-jitsu I don't want anything you do not just like physical feel like physical like that every day I feel like this [ __ ] hurts all right but I'm talking like insulin exhaustion a man like I I've had it with you Jitsu right like a Down moment a bad moment while Berto went you know what I I'm not in love with jiu-jitsu yeah it was hard you know when I you know like when you're like any fight and you compete like you just you push pass right you you you keep going right no matter what I mean the people like you love like your students I love my students you know so I mean they're my motivation to keep showing up and to do it you know but for sure it wasn't a happy time I didn't feel good after training you know I didn't feel good like day to day I would be in pain you know for you know how many days after training like I was telling you I was taking ibuprofen every day I was in bad shape you know so wasn't it fun you know and I wanted it to be fun because I loved it you know but and so those are moments before like the MS thing that I just I just I wasn't in a good place you know in myself personally of course I'm gonna keep going and and trying to help my students but I was for sure you know not doing good myself personally you know like physically and just because I was doing good well physically or mentally you know everybody's connected right and so and you know but I you know I'm I love my students that I you know I'm not gonna quit you know I'm gonna keep showing up and and I have to you know so that's that's who I am and yeah so but for sure you know I wasn't I wasn't doing well and I don't think I ever wanted to say like I wanted to quit who say you know but but for sure I wasn't I wasn't doing well wasn't happy compared to now and so that was before that was before like that immense diagnosis and so I kind of put things in perspective like okay you're right okay that makes sense like I'm going on in my arms and going on with my legs I'm so stiff like there's something wrong for sure you know I had a lot of pain and I was tired I speak Teague you know go in and you know train and right now I just want to sleep a lot of things like that it's interesting how you approach that once you got the diagnosis because rather than throw yourself a pity party or submit to the fact that you're gonna be disabled potentially you I think it's one of those things where you're like I'm gonna lose all this I better enjoy it while I have it because you said that's afterwards you win your world tour and started competing like crazy where's their player you thinking that you you might be losing it so you have to go out that's it that's it that's it you know I thought what about what if in six months like I'm in a wheelchair what happens in six months I can't grab anymore you know those are the thoughts that I had so yeah okay there was a you know as they were starting to open up these like these international tournaments I grew up I lived many years in Munich Germany so they had a ibj up in Munich Germany so I was like I could won my first light international tournaments that I did so I get when I give everything I have you know I want to give everything I got you know and then you know like him I gave I gave them a bets and I gave it my all if the day comes where I can't grab anymore I can't you know I can't grapple so I mean that's how I felt like that's what you see right that's you see that's what like the doctors tell you pretty much right so it's really like you know it's really [ __ ] up you know it's really messed up so so it's not that's not right you know and you can hear yourself with movement it's like knowledge and so that's what I'm all about you know like how about you did see but I'm about like tack here with jiu-jitsu well obviously it's giving you back so much you know I feel like only recently I am nowhere near where you're at but when I had my knee problem and the shoulder it was getting me down you know because it was hard to move these popping and those things that you took for granted your your health you know that's one thing I would tell people health is only a need you only feel the importance when you start to lose it right like when you're very healthy you're never like oh this is precious because you don't have perspectives it's like someone who's always had food doesn't know what being hungry truly is you know like only once you've starved yourself then you understand wow how good it is to have food in the on your table how precious water is you know so like when your health starts to fade then you're like oh man I took this for granted and obviously you probably had the biggest trial of them all I remember when they when the news came out but you had that I was like oh Christ you know like just like you said like doctors say it's kind of like a it's like set in stone like well now you're done that's not all all the nurses all the doctors that's it that's how they treat me when I was walking out of that office and then when I was about to leave you know as I can i still do jujitsu the main doctor and he's like sure I was like okay good so I registered for attorney and I was just fighting him a man I thought you know for like ten years so I registered for a tournament and then I you know went on that path that I'm not three and a half year tour you know and gave everything gave everything I had but for sure like jiu-jitsu gave me the mindset right like you can have the mindset like that's you know it's all gonna half and then you know he's going in that path right led me to that Madrid damage it ruined the rent you know and really like I felt it you know like I felt that capability to mine you know and you too gave me that mind jiu-jitsu gave me that mindset in Brazil and my brother is my jutsu family and just experiences I had it just gave me so much it gave me everything it's giving me everything my life and that's a good point that you mentioned there too because like you said I wasn't again again yeah even got in here if you wanted it wasn't winning money owls or wedding a cage that stood out as a strong memory right it was just winning some whoa you know some random IBG I have 20 men in Spain that has meant the most to you and it wasn't because of the prestige it was because of the adversity yet to conquer right and yeah yeah anybody can get that if they challenge themselves and push themselves you know so it might not be the you know UFC championship belt but you might be competing in a local tournament and going through some adversity like you did you know where you feel like total happened everybody's been there at some point but a lot of people just submit and they're like okay it's just that my day rather than trying to dig deep you know and you move past that because that like that type of strength of character that you show it sticks with you forever all right like I always say like when you have that type of toughness it doesn't fade away because you always have that memory like I am this tough oh I have been tougher stuff than this so I can and that's gonna translate through everything in your life you know but if you're like I think right when I was talking to my brother with Robert he was talking about that as well you know like if you're like the guy that's cardio typing at the gym you're not building that toughness you know you you can't allow yourself to just give it up easily you always have to fight a million poverty hugs you've you're one of the people I would call a warrior right like I always made the distinction between an athlete and a warrior where athlete you know when once they started getting bodily harm they step out you know where as a warrior no die you know before giving up yeah I wonder like people talk about experiences like these you know and I hate being biased and of course we all are you know we're all gonna say that jiu-jitsu did this for us you know I think I think that you know I wonder if other arts you get that sort of these sort of lessons I think that a lot but I advised as we are I inclined to believe that very few endeavors in human life will you ever experience everything you experience in jiu-jitsu I'll tell you why anything you guys been agreed you don't get it the extent of like the emotional hardship you go through the physical right the level of concentration the complexity of the technique and it's there's so many elements man like you talked about sprinting okay sprinting is physically hard there's not a whole bunch of strategy it's not the same as being in combat with someone's trying to outsmart you you know like you I think other experiences are more limited always compared to chess and I always think man jiu-jitsu is so much more complex than chess the hata with the human body you has to do with emotion that has to deal with you know actually physically it get tough someone in your face trying to choke you out it's so primal and it's so highly intellectual at the same time I don't think that experience that we have other people can experience it the way we do I maybe I'm biased maybe I can't you know I think other people would disagree but I really feel like digits is what most more the most complex things you can do at home yeah I definitely think it is just because like there's other sports like I think who was like Jerry Rice amputated a finger so that he could keep playing you know because he had broken it so bad so like there's people who sacrifice a lot but I think what makes you know jujitsu in a lump and MMA in there as well is that there's a combination of things that other sports don't get like for one the weight cutting right having to diet and you know deprive yourself of fluids and going through that it's a whole trial in itself right like you see some guys cut in 20 30 pounds and you can't like begin to understand how difficult that is and perform at a championship level you know whereas like you might be doing football baseball you don't have to worry about cutting weight you never have to dye it or like really suffer like something these guys do so that's like one level and the other level one-on-one combat when you have a team the team can take some of the blame for you or they can pick up the slack you know if I'm weak today at least my team could cover for me and we can still win you know but like when you're fighting it's you it's just you out there and you have to take all the blame and you have to take all the glory so it's a high stress level and I think the third thing is also it's just it's like you said Roberts primal its combat right and there's something in combat that triggers an extra little switch that's why I like we always say like when people compete in our team we're always proud of them when they step on the mats because it's such a difficult thing to do like to me like you think public speakings typical imagine fighting in public people trying to kill you literally and you're out there so I think that and no and then even not talking about the complexity of fighting there's so many techniques there's so many strategies and approaches and every body type is different you know like I think 100% of you I think we can say definitively it's definitely one of the more most complex things just because of all the different factors you know I mean there's there's a there's a there's a there's a reason why like an MMA right no matter what culture what area from in the world like you're gonna stand understand what's going on in the fight right if you watch anything they fight to like right but it's still the same thing and what I love about jiu-jitsu is you don't have to get brain damage you know you can really put your and put everything into it and it's without the brain damage so I think we're really like a way of life as well as a way of life man jiu-jitsu like just after fighting like it just gave me like another appreciation of it you know from like little kids and their brain develop just as you get older keeping you young right because you're moving in all the different directions and then of course the community and the friendships and the Brotherhood's and all that you know but but you know it keeps you you know it keeps you humble right keeps you a good person right because you're challenged that's right and you have to face death in a way you know every time you train right yes yes to be ready you know there's always somebody there's all somebody you know there's always somebody better right there's always somebody tougher there's always things gonna happen even the guy that's not better you make a mistake and they get you right so so it's just something after face and just makes you a better person because of it so like just being older and being you know being rounded for so many years now you know it's it's the best you know it's the best for sure I think as far as way of life as tool for living your best life oh I think that's a great way to wrap it up you know man like that's credible journey there Alberto I wish you know we could probably you know I could probably keep talking if like hours and hours you probably have so much in common as Americans are then like so much rain we can go on with that thing forever that's like a whole lot yeah I'm sure I've had tons of have tons of stories but you know I'm here really only had you know you're in Vegas I would love to have you at the gym I know if you talked about having me and in LA I will get on work it out we get to do this pandemic [Music] Dave we're talking about how you know I have like a love-hate relationship with it because I you know I'm concerned for depression I'm concern for my business you know economics of course come in course they part right on the other hand I've just discovered that I absolutely like being alone I didn't know that like you know be like so me you know like now it's like oh my you know I got my books I got my documentary I got my guitar that's a shoe and you know what life kicks in again I don't like stay in this like state of you know all day by myself but dude we got to catch up at some point man I'd love to spend more time with you Chris story for sure big pleasure big honor to talk to you guys thank you guys for having me on the show but elsewhere though I learned before we before we let you go go ahead and plug yourself you know they were can people learn more about you and critique you like I know tactics something you're passionate about yeah you know you know my Instagram Alberto crane why the Instagram at legacy Los Angeles at legacy Glendale we have a couple gyms and the Los Angeles area tactic at TAC fit Instagram but TAC recom you know but you can follow the Instagram or the Facebook tax rates you know and you can because up to read and learn you know YouTube's as well you know and I can watch them good how do you spell that tag fits is like tactical fitness so TAC fi t TAC fit like tactical fitness yet right it was called the world's smartest workout Robert you should look into the good Robert had a neck stinger not too long ago so when you were talking about how you had slamming your neck I'm like my best friend my best friend he's here with me now you know he tapped out like chakra back in the late 90s man and in permeability now and he's like a musician he's an attorney he's a lot of things you know a but he couldn't train contain because every time you train his lower back his body just he couldn't walk for a week you know after so that tech kind of takes that away and so I started showing him some of the things and some of the flow some of the movements you know and he started doing it and he came in to train he did the movements before and after a man he's training like every day is competing competing again and he has it a part of his life you know so it's a game changer it's a game tree I'm not just recovery things it just helps you be your best you know the young guys because it's a it's a performance enhancer right it's like a it's like a you know unfair advantage in a way you know but it's it's all the right stuff like a neurologically it makes you faster makes you stronger so it's that's it's something else you know and it takes time to get right it's like a it's like a martial art it's like a skill right but the sooner you can get at it the better it will be for you for everybody awesome awesome thank you so much let me check it out I definitely need it um yeah man thank you so much for be on the show man we would really appreciate it now let's do it again sometime that guy's looking for to it thank you guys thank you [Music]